One detainee with a British accent shows off his bruises
Posted on 06/29/2004 7:54:16 PM PDT by saquin
American military police yesterday raided a building belonging to the Iraqi ministry of the interior where prisoners were allegedly being physically abused by Iraqi interrogators.
The raid appeared to be a violation of the country's new sovereignty, leading to angry scenes inside the ministry between Iraqi policemen and US soldiers.
The military police, who had been told of abuse, seized an area known as the Guesthouse just outside the ministry's main building. They disarmed the Iraqi policemen and at one stage threatened to set free prisoners whose handcuffs they removed, according to Iraqi officials.
The arrival of a second group of US military police and a more senior officer led to an argument between the two groups of military policemen over who had command authority for the raid.
Iraqi ministry of interior officials admitted that around 150 prisoners taken during a raid four days before in the Betawain district of Baghdad had been physically abused during their arrest and subsequent questioning.
The men were captured in the first big Iraqi-led anti-crime and anti-terrorism operation, which took place a few days before the transfer of power, with US military police in support and using US satellite images.
Senior Iraqi officers described those captured as "first class murderers, kidnappers and terrorists with links to al-Ansar" - a militant group in the former Kurdish no-fly zone - who had all admitted to "at least 20 crimes while being questioned".
According to an al-Jazeera television crew, who had been filming the prisoners when the US military police conducted their raid, most of the detainees were blindfolded, with their hands cuffed behind their backs. One prisoner was so weak, from dehydration, that the US military policemen fitted an intravenous drip to rehydrate him.
Although none of the American officers involved in the raid would talk to the Guardian, one of the soldiers involved in the raid said that it had been launched after claims that prisoners were being abused.
US military spokesmen would not comment. "We can't confirm that this took place," a spokesman said.
One of the prisoners bared his back after his initial arrest to reveal open welts allegedly caused by baton and rubber hoses.
A bodyguard for the head of criminal intelligence, Hussein Kamal, admitted that the beatings had taken place.
Nashwan Ali - who said his nickname was Big Man - said: "A US MP asked me this morning what police division I was in. I said I was in criminal intelligence.
"The American asked me why we had beaten the prisoners. I said we beat the prisoners because they are all bad people. But I told him we didn't strip them naked, photograph them or fuck them like you did."
The clear evidence of human rights abuses in the ministry building, which western advisers said they were not aware was being used for interrogations, raises serious questions over what authority the US and other multinational forces have to intervene if they suspect human rights abuses.
Although the new interim government of prime minister Ayad Allawi has warned that it may impose "drastic measures" - including invoking emergency powers to combat the worsening security situation in the country - advisers from the former coalition say they have been at pains to train Iraqi officers in human rights. This takes up one of their eight weeks' training.
One western police adviser said he had no idea that the ministry itself was being used for questioning suspects. "It sounds rather like the bad old days," he said.
something about "a traffic jam when you're already late" or "10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife..."
I would say it is like rain on your wedding day.
PITTS!!!
Either they have sovereignty or they don't. If they do, it is none of our business how they treat their prisoners.
Whoever ordered this raid needs to be yanked out of the country and sent back ASAP. An apology needs to be tendered to the new Iraqi government.
"The men were captured in the first big Iraqi-led anti-crime and anti-terrorism operation, which took place a few days before the transfer of power, with US military police in support and using US satellite images.
Senior Iraqi officers described those captured as "first class murderers, kidnappers and terrorists with links to al-Ansar" - a militant group in the former Kurdish no-fly zone"
if true, this is a serious breach if it occurred after the soverignty turnover. what are we doing?
At least the Iraqis didn't put panties on their heads.
I agree 110% with your premise!!! However, I seldom take ANYTHING that The Guardian reports as factual! We shall see.
Nah, it's just psyops to psych out Saddam.
According to an al-Jazeera television crew, who had been filming the prisoners when the US military police conducted their raid ..... One prisoner was so weak, from dehydration, that the US military policemen fitted an intravenous drip to rehydrate him.
Will Al-Jaz show this act of compassion I wonder ?
One detainee with a British accent shows off his bruises
What's going on here???
Someone 'splain it to me.
If the Iraqi's are sovereign, then this is their issue, not ours.
I sort of hoped that turning over the prisoners to the Iraqi's might lead to more intelligence information (they'll get more out of them than we will within our constraints)!
They don't have to deal with our freaking perverted press that can't get enough of naked prisoner photos. They just need to make sure there are no cameras around.
Good point. Agreed.
I saw a news clip of Iraqi police kicking the living excrement out of a couple of guys in the street. The guys, who had fired an rpg at the Iraqis moments before, were crawling towards Army guys standing on the sidewalk begging for help. I couldn't help but smile. I'll bet the insurgencey trickles down to nothing within 2 weeks.
I wish I could have seen this, what channel was it on?
Paula Zahn (CNN) was in NC with families of Marines about to be deployed (only reason and only time I've watched the program) and it was a segment between live interviews. I think it was meant to be disturbing and indicative of the disaster brought about by the desperate sovereignty turnover. Just didn't work for me in that way.
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