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US plans huge show of force in Pacific
Straits Times ^ | 1 July 2004 | Ching Cheong

Posted on 07/01/2004 10:31:01 AM PDT by Lokibob

 
 
 
 
 

US plans huge show of force in Pacific

Seven aircraft carriers to move within striking distance of China; Taiwan forces slated to join in drill

By Ching Cheong

HONG KONG - The United States is planning a massive show of force in the Pacific Ocean near China to register a point with Beijing.

WHAT THE NUMBERS MEAN:

ONE aircraft carrier is sent to a trouble spot as a reminder of US presence. This was done several times in the past, when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

TWO carriers show serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

THREE OR FOUR are sent in combat situations - as in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

Sending SEVEN carriers in peace time to the same region is unprecedented. The US plan to do this after mid-July, in the Pacific Ocean near China, is a message to Beijing for its threat to use force to stop Taiwanese independence.

In an exercise codenamed Operation Summer Pulse 04, it is expected to arrange for an unprecedented seven aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) to rendezvous in waters a safe distance away from the Chinese coastline - but still within striking distance - after mid-July.

This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region.

According to a Department of Defence statement, Summer Pulse is to test out a new Fleet Response Plan (FRP) aimed at enhancing the American Navy's combat power and readiness in a time of crisis.

The FRP calls for the despatching of six 'forward deployed' or 'ready to surge' CSGs to a trouble spot within 30 days, and an additional two within 90 days.

Although the statement does not say where the seven CSGs will exercise, the Status of the Navy website said the USS Carl Vinson, Abraham Lincoln, John C Stennis and Kitty Hawk were in the Pacific Ocean as of yesterday.

The USS Enterprise and Harry Truman are in the Atlantic Ocean while USS George Washington is in the Persian Gulf.

According to a posting on Sina.com, an influential website in China, the signs point to a gathering of all seven CSGs in the Pacific.

Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to join in the drill.

Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send Beijing a message.

From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.

It did so several times in the past when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the same theatre.

The implications for China are grave.

According to Kanwa Defence News, which specialises in Chinese military matters, Beijing can cope with just one CSG currently.

'But in five to 10 years, it can certainly take on seven,' said Mr Chang Hong-yi, head of Kanwa, in an interview with The Straits Times.

'China's military potential is enormous and in terms of military technology, the gap with the US is closing fast,' he added.

However, a Chinese military source who declined to be identified is more sanguine.

'Even now, China can easily take on two CSGs,' he said but conceded that there was no way it could face seven all at the same time.

This means that if China has to wage war over Taiwan, it has to be able to land and seize control of the island within the first 30 days.

Otherwise, under the FRP, six CSGs may well arrive to join in the battle.

'All this leaves China with no choice but to start and end the war with lightning speed,' said the source.

Politically, Summer Pulse is likely to be seen by many Chinese as naked intimidation.

'This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st century,' the source remarked, adding that it would remind the Chinese people of their century-long deep humiliation by Western powers - and put Sino-US relations at peril.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asia; china; geopolitics; pacific; summerpulse04; usnavy
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To: Lokibob

I remember hearing about his last month. Wonder how many boomers are going to be under the waves :o)

And no one will ever know.......


61 posted on 07/01/2004 11:39:46 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Question.

Please name all active carriers.

Arent we up to 11 or 13.

Becoming a carrier buff and want to know all i can.


62 posted on 07/01/2004 11:39:49 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Liberalism is communism one drink at a time)
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To: Servant of the 9

with really short golf clubs.


63 posted on 07/01/2004 11:43:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: samadams2000

12 Reagan was the last - Looking for names


64 posted on 07/01/2004 11:43:38 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: af_vet_1981

I totally agree with you. Something's up!


66 posted on 07/01/2004 11:46:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Ronald Reagan - the Greatest President of the 20th Century)
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To: thoughtomator

One, maybe two groups in the Persian Gulf will give us all the air power we can use there, even if every host country in the region kicks us out of land based strips. Iraq is down to nitty gritty, down and dirty. Helos and close air support will still be useful, but the grunt on the street is going to win (or God help us lose) this one. A carrier offshore ain't squat to a suicide bomber in Fallugah.


67 posted on 07/01/2004 11:48:14 AM PDT by barkeep
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To: ezoeni

Id like to see 18 on duty.

Let's start building today.


68 posted on 07/01/2004 11:49:15 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Liberalism is communism one drink at a time)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
This just in:

North Korea is accusing the United States of spying and Pyongyang says Washington is preparing a surprise attack.

The official Korean Central News Agency is quoting military sources saying US spy planes flew more than 150 missions over the communist country last month alone.

Maybe it's time that the broken clock is right.

69 posted on 07/01/2004 11:49:23 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: All
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70 posted on 07/01/2004 11:57:20 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Free Republic, where you get the REAL stories that the media refuses to carry!)
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To: Semper Paratus; nicko
As far as North Korea goes, we've been watching them for over fifty years, and we know what to look out for.

We watch a number of variables, for instance bad weather hurts our air power, warm weather turns things muddy and hampers armor and ground movement, etc. There are a large number of such things that have their own pros and cons, but wouldn't stop them from being able to attack per se. It does channel them down certain lines of thinking and action.

We also note things that have more of a set value, such as what times of year do the North Koreans have enough food stored up. Since the military is also part of the agricultural labor force, the national farming schedule plays a large role in determining when many of the troops are actually available to fight. You can assume that North Korea wouldn't launch an invasion without enough food to sustain the attack, since that would be guarenteeing defeat. You can also assume that if soldiers abandon the fields mid harvest and head for the guns, that something is up.

Finally, are things that we just can't predict, but have to factor in anyway. There other elements that may influence the actions of the North Korean leadership. Is Kim Jong Il facing a coup? Was the recent 'accidental train explosion' an attempt on his life? Is there other intelligence out there that, when coupled with what we already know, gives us reason to be concerned?

(Obviously, this is not all, but just a few examples of what is looked at)

If the carriers have an ulterior motive to be in the Pacific, floating off the coast of China, then the above could have something to do with it.

71 posted on 07/01/2004 12:00:22 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: jpsb
No way, the last thing Bush wants right before an election is getting into a war with N.K.

That's exactly right, but the election could be an excuse for someone to try to push us around and take advantage. I say this is a bad idea with this man in the WH.
72 posted on 07/01/2004 12:01:16 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Do you all realize that we will probably cut the NK's a big check? The statedept and politicians do the expedient thing. We will cave. No?


73 posted on 07/01/2004 12:01:26 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Liberalism is communism one drink at a time)
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To: Steel Wolf

We may have assets in NK that are confirming things we suspect.


74 posted on 07/01/2004 12:03:14 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Lokibob
N Korea Accuses US Of Planning Attack
75 posted on 07/01/2004 12:06:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: jpsb

If 7 CBG's are in the Pacific, that means that there are probably a goodly number of subs in the area as well. I'm not sure which, if I were Chinese, I'd fear more.

If China goes after Taiwan, some people at the Pentagon must think the Chinese sees our engagement in Iraq as their 'big chance'. I would imagine we will make coming back to China a difficult thing for those Reds that manage to land on Taiwan.


76 posted on 07/01/2004 12:26:50 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: Lokibob
put Sino-US relations at peril.

Sure wouldn't want to give up something that good.

77 posted on 07/01/2004 12:30:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: thoughtomator

We have five more CBG's.

You could set Iran back a couple of decades in their air and land defense capabilities with two of those groups.

The big question with all of this is going to be LOGISTICS. Making sure all those groups have enough beans, bullets and jet fuel is going to be monumentally hard.


78 posted on 07/01/2004 12:31:12 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: guitfiddlist

Well put!


79 posted on 07/01/2004 12:34:14 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Lokibob
Normal components for a Carrier Battle Group:
1 Carrier
2 Arleigh Burke Destroyers
2 guided missle cruisers
1 frigate
2 submarines
supply ship

Groups can go up to 11 ships total. If we are sending 7 CBGs that might be up to 77 ships.

Peace through strength.

Don't forget the B2 bombers stationed at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

80 posted on 07/01/2004 12:35:31 PM PDT by rudypoot (Rat line = Routes that foreign fighters use to enter Iraq.)
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