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To: missyme

Bill is just talking reality. Not illusion.


2 posted on 07/01/2004 10:13:33 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: eternity

Yea, but what's Jesse Jackson doin up there? Has H**l frozen over or something? I never would've thought that those two would share a stage, much less defend each other, after Mr. Cosby's last outburst.


10 posted on 07/01/2004 10:49:47 PM PDT by Spacemonkey1023
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To: eternity

There would be no outcry if Bill Cosby were white and said those things! It's all about personal responsibility.


35 posted on 07/03/2004 6:02:10 AM PDT by tob2 (Old fossil and proud of it.)
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To: eternity
IMO, there were a couple of highlights from Dr. Cosby's speech at the Rainbow/PUSH meeting. First, of course, you had Cosby speaking the truth--saying things that too many Americans (black and white) are too afraid to mention. And, BTW, Cosby's comments cut across racial barriers; there are a lot of white and hispanic kids that are illiterate, lack effective communication skills and acquiring their world view from the lyrics of gangsta rap. Factor in parents that often don't give a damn, and you've got a generation that is unequipped for life in the 21st century.

But the real highlight was the look on Jesse Jackson's face while Cosby delivered his sermon. Jackson was fuming; not surprising, because, point-by-point, Cosby destroyed Jackson and his long-standing "blame it on whitey/we need more federal programs" platform. If you watch thet tape, you'll note that Cosby was interrupted several times by cheering and applause--Jackson never clapped once during Cosby's speech.

BTW, I don't agree with everything Cosby said. If you read between the lines of his remarks, Cosby seems to imply that America is as racist today as it was 40 years ago--a point that can be easily refuted by facts. But Cosby's basic message is on target, and I applaud his courage and honesty.

One more thing: isn't it funny how few black leaders have come forward in support of Bill Cosby? Sadly, the lack of support for Cosby is hardly surprising; with the Democratic National Convention is just a few weeks off, it's not hardly an opportune time to wander off the party plantation, and say things that may jeopardize your political future....

36 posted on 07/03/2004 9:42:40 AM PDT by Spook86
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To: eternity

I myself do not understand the people. Bill Cosby is speaking the truth. But America does not want to see the truth, white or black. White America does not much give a damn about black America. Unless black america somehow aids white america, such as in presidential elections, white america don't give a damn. and maybe racism does not surface as it did 40 years ago, but i do believe racism still exists in people much as it did 40 years ago. But because of the new era and new laws and the new "way" of society, racism is kept in secret rather than spoken out loud; however, it still exists. But the hypocrites of america would not let you know such, at least not straight up. But they damm sure will talk behind your back. or they won't hire you or treat you the same as their own. i believe white america, the majority, would never look at black people as equal as their own because there is always the subconscious mind that overpowers your natural thinking. im saying this because i believe black america is where black america is partially because of white america. and if white america did give a damn, i believe black america would be on a higher level and maybe the projects of america would help black people rather than trap them.
I said partially because black america has become ignorant and selfish in their own communities. "leaders" such as these rap artists ain't doing a damn thing to help out their people. i believe black america has forgotten how to be a people. now, they just focus on being "black." But this "black" isn't what african americans are about at all. the "oh im ghetto and i like it n****" makes no damn sense to me. rappers have made it so being ghetto and being thug is a good and positive thing when it is not. black kids all over america try to act "black" because they are black. but the thing is, being black has nothing to do with being ghetto. but the music industry has brainwashed america into thinking that if ur ghetto, u either are black or ur acting black. and the white man always has associated bad things with acting black. and now the black man is "acting black" and he's proud of it. but he aint got a damn thing to be proud of because he's an ignorant fool. now in america, acting black and acting ghetto mean the same damn thing. I believe black america needs to have leaders such as bill cosby who speak the truth. Jesse jackson ain't no damn leader. he's nothing but a hypocrite thats in for the publicity. if there was somebody to be called a n*****, it sure damn be him. martin luther king jr., malcolm X, marcuy garvey, thurgood marshall, fredrick douglas. these were good and postive black man that all has one goal in common. that was to help their people. but today, the black community has no leaders. besides bill cosby i dont see any other black leader doing anything to help his or her people. And without leaders, the igorant and selfish crowds will follow the ignorant and selfish so-called "leaders" which i believe will bring them to an eventual doom. and i believe if something or someone does not do something soon, the black community will find themselves in a major struggle and downfall.
the black community needs leadership, unity, perservence, and hope. i believe many have lost hope. but never lose hope. none of america's great black leaders lost hope and their contribution will be remembered forever. and i appreciate the bold and powerful Bill Cosby for speaking the truth and nothing but the truth. you can't blame others for your mistakes. and even if obstacles stand, which they mostly do, they can always be overtaken with the strength and power of the soul and mind.
Be easy. Be real. and always keep hope alive


41 posted on 08/05/2004 1:38:09 AM PDT by BrothaManX
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