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Dinesh D'Souza: Land of the Free, The Islamic critique cuts deep, but there is an answer.
NRO ^ | 7/2/2004 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 07/02/2004 6:00:09 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik
There is a story in the Islamic classical tradition about a man and a woman who came to the prophet Muhammad and said, "Messenger of Allah, purify us." Muhammad asked, "From what am I to purify you?" They replied, "From adultery." Muhammed asked the two people whether they were insane or drunk. Assured that they were not, Muhammad asked them again, "What have you done?" They confessed that they had committed adultery. Then Muhammad gave the order, and the two were stoned to death. While the couple was being buried, onlookers scorned them, but Muhammad chided the scoffers. The couple had repented, he said, and now they were with Allah.

If this is the example of a virtuous society, I find it difficult to take seriously. I think the vast majority of Americans would find this grotesque.

21 posted on 07/02/2004 7:21:22 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: Guillermo

The lightbulb goes on! Good point!


22 posted on 07/02/2004 7:23:59 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: Tolik

"I think this article should be a required reading starting from middle school up."

Along with this other jewel that he produced in the wake of Reagan's passing; it should be
required reading to immunize kids from liberal/Democratic revisionists:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1148542/posts


23 posted on 07/02/2004 7:30:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Polonius

Lets bear in mind that this happened in (what) the late 7th century. Where this would not have been consided all that outragous anywhere in the world. It wasn't all that long ago here in America that people convicted of a capital crime were taken (pretty much) right from the court room too the gallows too the graveyard.
And yes I find it grotesque also.


24 posted on 07/02/2004 7:32:45 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: VOA

Than you very much for the link. Here is more of his stuff on FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-dineshdsouza/browse


25 posted on 07/02/2004 7:49:42 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik
He nails what Islam is without cutting to the truth. Islam is phony in every area. Phony virtue, phony prophet, phony god.

In truth they worship Satan and are the children of Satan. They call Allah the greatest deceiver of them all. We rightly call Satan the great deceiver. What small part of the Old Testament they use, they twist into a lie, thereby calling God a liar. His son they reduce to a prophet and lie about his divinity.

Lying and Islam go hand in hand. Islam is a cult that views lying as a useful tool for allah, while God has made truth an essential foundation, Jesus said of himself, I am, the Way, the Truth, and the Life, announcing truth as one of the identifying characteristics and foundation of the godhead. We are at war with the ideology of Satan, a phony piety that esteems the lie as a fundamental foundation, that indulges the blood lust of brutal killers and feathers the nest of Satan's clerics.
26 posted on 07/02/2004 7:51:12 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: goldstategop

Must be due to the feminization of American society. A woman goes into a restroom, looks into the mirror and says "I need to lose ten pounds, I'm fat"
A man looks into a mirror and says "I'm still HOT!"

American Left is criticizing every flaw and vice under the sun, instead of loving our goodness, our beauty.

The RIGHT used to say AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!


27 posted on 07/02/2004 8:25:40 AM PDT by buffyt (The Clintons are the Demons from Dogpatch)
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To: Valin

True enough, but would you take seriously someone who wants to return to those 7th century standards, and seems to in fact hold them up as superior?


28 posted on 07/02/2004 8:49:22 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: Tolik
By contrast, the theocratic and authoritarian society that Islamic fundamentalists advocate undermines the possibility of virtue.

It is only by making a choice between life and death, between truth and lies that virtue can be discerned. I have often thought it a lie that muslims have high regard for their women by leaving them covered in public. More likely this is to prevent the male from becoming overcome with the lust in his heart. This is not virtue, it is more like prohibition.

29 posted on 07/02/2004 8:51:47 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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Even the church, Qutb commented, has become a place for amusement and social interaction rather than worship.

As opposed to what, THE MOSQUE, which has become a place for incitement to murder ???!!!!!

30 posted on 07/03/2004 7:26:22 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Valin
Lets bear in mind that this happened in (what) the late 7th century.

The difference is that we have moved on and they are still stuck in the 7th century.

31 posted on 07/05/2004 5:50:15 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: lancer

Many Muslims are, BUT (as I'm sure you know) there are those who a trying to bring the Islamic world into the modern world.


32 posted on 07/05/2004 6:02:36 PM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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