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CARDINAL RATZINGER ORDERS KERRY COMMUNION BAN!
Newsmax ^ | 7/6/04

Posted on 07/06/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by areafiftyone

In a private memorandum, top Vatican prelate Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told American bishops that Communion must be denied to Catholic politicians who support legal abortion.

While never mentioning Sen. John Kerry by name, the memo implicitly aims at the pro-choice Catholic Massachusetts senator and presidential candidate.

But the ban is broad and includes all other pro-abortion Catholic politicians who are defying the church's ban on abortion.

According the the Culture of Life Foundation, which obtained a copy of the confidential document, the Cardinal began by stressing the serious nature of receiving Communion and the need for each person to make “a conscious decision” regarding their worthiness based on “the Church’s objective criteria.”

But the Cardinal adds that it is not only the responsibility of the pro-abortion politicians such as Kerry to make a judgment about their worthiness to receive Communion.

It is also up to those distributing Communion to deny the sacrament to those in conflict with the Church's prohibition of abortion and the duty of office holders to oppose the procedure.

“Apart from an individual’s judgment about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin.”

If a politician such as Kerry “still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it, ” Cardinal Ratzinger wrote.

He added that such as denial does not mean that the minister of Communion is judging the politician’s soul but is a reflection that he is in a state of obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin.

“Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s

subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”

The document also address the issues of the death penalty and war, contrasting these issues and with abortion.

“Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia ... There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia,” Ratzinger wrote.

The memo was one of the subjects of an interim report by a task force of seven bishops established to address the Communion question.

The topic was also addressed by the American Bishops during their mid-June meeting in Dallas.

At that meeting the Bishops approved a document titled “Catholics in Political Life” which while it had harsh words for pro-abortion leaders, did not make specific recommendations on whether or not they should be denied Communion instead leaving the decision to individual Bishops.

Implicit in what the the Cardinal was saying, however, is that the bishops are required to state unambiguously that pro-abortion politicians must be denied Holy Communion, thus removing the decision from the bishops' discretion.


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KEYWORDS: catholiclist; catholicpoliticians; communion; kerry
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1 posted on 07/06/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Mere words - until it is enforced......


I'll believe it when I see it.


2 posted on 07/06/2004 12:34:30 PM PDT by TheBattman (http://www.miniclip.com/bushshootout.htm)
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To: areafiftyone
http://www.crisismagazine.com/may2003/feature1.htm Crisis Magazine

May 2,2003

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

3 posted on 07/06/2004 12:36:36 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: areafiftyone
In a private memorandum, top Vatican prelate Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told American bishops that Communion must be denied to Catholic politicians who support legal abortion.

Uh,......what does the Pope have to 'say' about this 'private' memorandum?

Is this o.k.d by Mecca?

/sarcasm

4 posted on 07/06/2004 12:37:32 PM PDT by maestro
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To: areafiftyone
While never mentioning Sen. John Kerry by name, the memo implicitly aims at the pro-choice Catholic Massachusetts senator and presidential candidate.

Excellent...no more photo ops in church.

5 posted on 07/06/2004 12:37:35 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Coleus

Ping. Do you think this will become a major issue? It comes from the Vatican.


6 posted on 07/06/2004 12:40:47 PM PDT by MattinNJ (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.)
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To: areafiftyone

I hope it sticks and makes waves. It should, but only time will tell.


7 posted on 07/06/2004 12:42:39 PM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: MattinNJ

Wow. I guess this is big news.


8 posted on 07/06/2004 12:45:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: ConservativeMan55

bumpity bump bump!


9 posted on 07/06/2004 12:45:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: b4its2late
I hope it sticks and makes waves. It should, but only time will tell.

I wonder if it will make waves at the Republican Convention, where (at least) three pro-abortion Catholics are expected to give major speeches: Giuliani, Pataki, and Schwarzenegger.
10 posted on 07/06/2004 12:46:18 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: areafiftyone
Do I now have to worry that any Catholic politican might not take his cues from the people who elected him, but rather will do what his Church tells him to do so he is not denied a ritual that may be very important to him?

The church hierarchy has the right to do what it wants to do on this matter, but it is opening the wounds that were around when JFK ran for president.

Should a catholic politician listen to his constituents or his church when it comes to matters of public policy?
11 posted on 07/06/2004 12:46:26 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC

This priest is just making his views known.

He has ordered a ban on communion for John Kerry.


12 posted on 07/06/2004 12:47:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: areafiftyone

Love the Cardinal's name.......sezitall!...


13 posted on 07/06/2004 12:48:57 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: Red Badger

LOL - Perfect!


14 posted on 07/06/2004 12:49:30 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone; Salvation

Who is Ratzinger and what is his position in the church (other than cardinal?)

Is he a possible "next Pope?"


15 posted on 07/06/2004 12:51:18 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: areafiftyone
Implicit in what the the Cardinal was saying, however, is that the bishops are required to state unambiguously that pro-abortion politicians must be denied Holy Communion, thus removing the decision from the bishops' discretion.

So bishops are required to uphold and enforce Church doctrine? Wow, what a novel concept.

16 posted on 07/06/2004 12:52:28 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: BikerNYC

The Church should rightly be more concerned with sin than politics.


17 posted on 07/06/2004 12:53:22 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: areafiftyone; NYer

Bump and ping. Let's see if the cardinal's word carries any weight...


18 posted on 07/06/2004 12:54:01 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: areafiftyone
It's about time. The Catholic hierarchy should have drawn this line years ago and not just for the POLITICIANS but for all Catholics. "Your faith or your politics", there can only be one master.
19 posted on 07/06/2004 12:54:50 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: BikerNYC
Should a catholic politician listen to his constituents or his church when it comes to matters of public policy?

Neither. A Catholic politician should stand up and tell his constituents exactly what he believes, and if they don't like it they'll find someone else to do the job.

When it comes to moral issues that cut across religious lines, a Catholic politician who says he "doesn't want to impose his beliefs on others" really doesn't have any beliefs to impose in the first place.

20 posted on 07/06/2004 12:55:12 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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