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Shrimp tariffs long overdue
Texas City Sun ^ | Published July 07, 2004 | By TJ Aulds

Posted on 07/07/2004 2:57:40 AM PDT by BellStar

Welcomed news from the U.S. Commerce Department Tuesday. For those who may have missed it, the Bush administration announced proposed tariffs on shrimp imports from China and Vietnam.

This comes after finding that companies were dumping shrimp into the United States at artificially low prices.

While we are usually cautious to call for such trade actions, Tuesday’s announcement by the Commerce Department is actually long overdue. Free trade is a good thing, when all sides play fair.

Chinese and Vietnamese companies are not doing that. That is why we think the actions of the Bush administration, albeit we are sure with a slight bit of political overtones, are the correct ones.

So, what does that mean for you?

Well, chances are good prices for the shrimp you eat will go up. They should not go up that much, but do be prepared to see a hike at your local seafood stand.

Those rising prices however should actually come in line with what the true market price for shrimp should be. At the same time it should give an important industry to our local economy a much needed even playing field.

Well, if not even, at least better conditions in which to compete.

Think about that the next time you head to the local seafood stand. Just where are your fish coming from?

Paying a little bit more for local shrimp and fish products does more than help the local shrimper. It helps the guy who the shrimper buys gasoline from.

It helps the local store the shrimper buys clothes for his kids. It helps the local car dealership where the shrimper goes to buy a new car or truck.

Chances are good it helps the place where you work because the majority of the local shrimpers we talk to make it a point to shop here at home.

There are no guarantees as to what impact if any these proposed tariffs will have or if and when they will be imposed. So chances are good there will be no relief for local shrimpers this summer or that the price of a shrimp cocktail at the Kemah Boardwalk will go up any before Labor Day.

Still, Tuesday’s actions went a long way to send an important message to other countries that the United States is all for free trade when it is actually free trade and not manipulated trade.

But it should also send us all an important message here locally. When you go out to eat or stop by the seafood stand to purchase shrimp, ask the server if what you are buying is Gulf Shrimp or imported shrimp.

If the answer is imported, maybe you could suggest to the shop owner or restaurant manager that you would prefer local shrimp.

That, we think, would have a bigger impact on equaling the balance of trade than waiting for the government to impose tariffs. It’s just another way of saying we would rather shop at home and see our money stay in the community.

— T.J. Aulds


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: shrimpers; tariffs; trade
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1 posted on 07/07/2004 2:57:40 AM PDT by BellStar
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To: BellStar

Get ready to pay more for shrimp.


2 posted on 07/07/2004 3:13:18 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: BellStar

It seems we pickand choose what tarriffs are allowed, If those tarriffs hurt our Frog friends or Europeans they are bad if they hurt the Asians they are ok. I agree with this tarriff although I sure was enjoying the cheap shrimp, but I agreed with the steel tarrif the liberals squealed about also. It seems Democrtas like Hillary decide to take away something from us for the common good it depends on who's friends they hurt.


3 posted on 07/07/2004 3:26:40 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: BellStar
proposed tariffs on shrimp imports from China and Vietnam

And the irony is that many Vietnamese are shrimpers in the Texas Gulf.

4 posted on 07/07/2004 3:31:06 AM PDT by Flyer (Happy Birthday USA!)
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To: Drango
The artificially low price of shrimp hurt Americans!
"I'm Celebrating this victory with the boats
and crews who bring us the worlds
finest shrimp, American wild-caught shrimp".
5 posted on 07/07/2004 3:31:23 AM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: Drango

I haven't seen the details on the shrimp tariff. And depending on what it is or isn't it may or may not be appropriate.

I don't have a big issue with Vietnam, they are an up and coming producer. (With respect to Shrimp, not so-called-catfish) But Chinese communists are definitely not playing fair. Their state owned aquaculture industry is massively subsidized as a way to gain hard currency for the gov't. A huge portion of China's positive TB is in private investment, the gov't only gets a slice of it. The aquaculture industry is mostly state owned.

One of the most eggregious aspects of this is that they are using USDA genetic selection program shrimp as stock. We have taxpayer subsidized research into selecting shrimp with good growth and disease tolerance in aquaculture environments. These improved strains of shrimp have massively improved the Chi-coms aquaculture industry. After tens (hundreds?) of millions of taxpayer funded research, the Chicoms bought miproved broodstock shrimp for a few hundred bucks. Another aspect of the dumping are the trace anti-biotics. The EU blocked all Chinese shrimp when there were trace amounts of banned for human consumption anti-biotics found, but they were under the threshhold of American standards. So it all got dumped here.

How this all plays out is what is an appropriate tariff. If it is narrowly targetted at the Chicoms, I fully support it, and it won't have much effect on shrimp price. If it is too broad, especially if it affects countries like Ecuador and Thailand, then it is trade protection and is inappropriate.


6 posted on 07/07/2004 3:34:23 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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To: Flyer
Come on down Aug 1st
To the Blessing of the Fleet
It will be a real Blessing!
7 posted on 07/07/2004 3:35:35 AM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: DugwayDuke; Strategerist; BobS; sgtbono2002; anymouse; Renfield; Pilsner; Final Authority; ...

Heads up!


8 posted on 07/07/2004 3:42:53 AM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: BellStar
In my 49 years in southeast Texas I have yet to see the Blessing of the Fleet. Maybe this is the year!

Kemah Slippers

Kemah Slippers

Laugh!

9 posted on 07/07/2004 3:44:08 AM PDT by Flyer (Happy Birthday USA!)
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To: BellStar; NewRomeTacitus
"Those rising prices however should actually come in line with what the true market price for shrimp should be."

Mexico is dumping "cheap" laborers on Americans. Can we get some action on that too so the cost of labor will "come in line with what the true market price" for labor "should be"?

Didn't think so. Our nation's politicians are SO bought.

10 posted on 07/07/2004 3:47:34 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Drango
Get ready to pay more for shrimp.

Not me. The Jumbos are already out of my price range - $12.99 per pound.

Let's all take a moment to recall that the price of shrimp skyrocketed when the enviros pushed through a drag-net ban in florida.

11 posted on 07/07/2004 4:06:12 AM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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To: BellStar

I give up.
How long overdue, are increases to tariffs?
A week? Two weeks? How was that determined?
...
The duty on imported shrimp is how much, now?
The proposed duty is how much?
Numbers, please.


12 posted on 07/07/2004 4:18:32 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: LowCountryJoe; SC Swamp Fox; dixie sass; Salo; SC MOOSE; Palmetto

This is an action that impacts locally, at least on the coast. For or against? It would be interesting to know where DeMint stands on this one too.


13 posted on 07/07/2004 4:20:15 AM PDT by doosee (Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.)
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To: greasepaint

Go to the google news section, put in the words "shrimp, commerce" and you will get a plethora of articles.


14 posted on 07/07/2004 4:21:27 AM PDT by Dane
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To: BellStar
I eat wild caught shrimp and we have plenty of it in Florida. Will not touch foreign farmed shrimp unless in a restaurant.
15 posted on 07/07/2004 4:26:32 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: blanknoone

Thank you for your informed information and comment. I am mostly against tarrifs and such and ultimately think that the consumer should get the ultimate benefit. Also if the govt. would get out of the way maybe a domestic shrimp farming industry could develop.


16 posted on 07/07/2004 4:26:32 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Also if the govt. would get out of the way maybe a domestic shrimp farming industry could develop.
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Could not compete with Chinese owned shrimp farms in Central America. Cost of production is so much cheaper down there. Even Asian shrimp farms (Vietnam, Thailand) would beat them...... SHRIMP is shipped in 5lb frozen blocks and bigger from these farms. Shrimp freezes well, with good taste and texture, so is very transportable.
17 posted on 07/07/2004 4:30:51 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: greasepaint

Here is a link to an Associated Press story about this.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/040706/shrimp_dumping_8.html
WTF?
113 percent duty on Chinese shrimp?
I thought that China was a 'most-favored-nation'???


18 posted on 07/07/2004 4:34:38 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: Flyer

We well save a Freeper table for you!


19 posted on 07/07/2004 4:36:15 AM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: dennisw
Could not compete with Chinese owned shrimp farms in Central America. Cost of production is so much cheaper down there. Even Asian shrimp farms (Vietnam, Thailand) would beat them...... SHRIMP is shipped in 5lb frozen blocks and bigger from these farms. Shrimp freezes well, with good taste and texture, so is very transportable

Thanks for the information. I am getting an education about the shrimp industry. Looks like the chicoms could just switch thier production to Central America, wish they were Central American owned, though.

I feel sorry for the shrimp boaters, but progress keeps marching on and consumers should be able to share in that.

20 posted on 07/07/2004 4:39:43 AM PDT by Dane
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