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Michael Moore Hates America! NEW Update (7/8/04) on the Anti-Moore flick!
MMHA ^ | 7-08-04 | Mike Wilson - Director

Posted on 07/08/2004 7:49:52 AM PDT by jmstein7

Daily Show, lots of media, and our progress.

UPDATE! The Daily Show just aired. It was hilarious. I have no regrets about doing it… and I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed that Moore played along (even though the result was to take a shot at me). Perhaps his sense of humor about this is finally coming around. Samantha Bee is hilarious, and it was cool to hang out with her for the day. I'll check in tomorrow.

I did a couple of radio things this morning here locally, and then headed down to Greg's to look at the rough cut. It's looking great… at least much better than I would expect it to at this point. We have some shuffling to do with the segments, so that the story arcs more effectively, but after taping note-cards and Post-Its to the wall all afternoon, it looks like we have it figured out. So we'll be moving stuff around all night, and then tightening up individual segments tomorrow.

I'll be doing quite a bit of media this week, squeezing it in between chopping the flick, working with the animator on some stuff, working with the music guys to license the stuff we want to use (and giving input on the stuff they're writing) and drinking lots of coffee. Deadlines suck, and we're trying to get a lot done in a short amount of time.

Oh, and I want to plug Penn's new book, Sock. He's out in NY reading and signing, and he's been pimping our flick as it comes up in conversation. So go buy a copy!

Take care,

Mike Wilson

Director, Michael Moore Hates America


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: michaelmoore
This is looking better and better! Go Mike W.!
1 posted on 07/08/2004 7:49:54 AM PDT by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7

Terrific! I donated a few bucks to this flick, and I was going to be seriously cross if it didn't happen :)


2 posted on 07/08/2004 7:52:35 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: jmstein7

Memogate bump!


3 posted on 07/08/2004 8:13:43 AM PDT by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: jmstein7

According to Lileks, Moore lied in the LA Times as well:

But, in high school, things changed. Nine boys from my school came back home from Vietnam in boxes. Draped over each coffin was the American flag. I knew that they also had made a sacrifice. But their sacrifice wasn't for their country: They were sent to die by men who lied to them.

For some reason that intrigued me: nine boys from my school. So I googled around, and found the Casualty list for the Vietnam War. There were six casualties from Davison, Michigan. (He didn’t go to high school in Flint. He didn’t live in Flint. You knew that, right? He lived in a suburb.) They weren’t boys. They were men. The earliest was killed in 1967, and there were two casualties in that year. Two in 1969, one in 1968, and one in 1970. Moore was born in 1954, so he would have entered high school in 1969, after which there were four casualties. (One of which died of a heart attack.) Two were drafted, incidentally. The rest – if I’m reading the site correctly – appeared to have enlisted.

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/index.html


4 posted on 07/08/2004 10:40:55 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: jmstein7

okay, i don't get the connection with penn. i looked at the website and the promos but don't get what he has to do with the movie. and i also don't get the stuff about releasing this so it doesn't get tangled up in the election guidelines so no lawsuits are forthcoming. can anybody explain this?


5 posted on 07/08/2004 12:45:51 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: jmstein7; Happy2BMe; Salem
Forgive me for this long reply, but I thought that this could compliment to your post:

“Hatriotism” and Michael Moore
By Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner
Guest Comment
June 30, 2004

A Turkish Muslim Looks at Everything Fahrenheit 9/11 Gets wrong about the Liberation of Iraq:

CBN.com – He was lauded with a twenty-minute standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival. A.O. Scott of the New York Times calls his movie a "passionate expression of outraged patriotism." At the June showing of "Fahrenheit 9/11" before the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science in Los Angeles, he received a standing ovation of over a minute.

And Michael Moore's most recent work spits in the face of my dead countrymen.

As yet another innocent person has their head severed by Islamic "extremists," Moore apparently glosses over the fact that democracy in general and America specifically is under attack. I am innately aware that Michael Moore is first and foremost a provocateur, and he thrives on controversy. I am also sure that he will smile gleefully at this Op-Ed piece, because I mention his film, which is free advertising. He has gone on record on his web site as saying that he hopes we will watch his movie, even if we disagree, because his facts and analysis are correct. He notes that he has a "dogged commitment to uncovering the facts."

I am not holding my breath. With the aforementioned facts in mind, I must still speak. Michael Moore has released the cinematic equivalent of a French kiss to all who hate America. He is the leading exponent of HATRIOTISM.

"HATE-RIOTISM" describes the new breeze blowing through the American media. It is now "cool" and "relevant" to mock everything for which our soldiers are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Criticizing democracy and America has long been in vogue in continental Europe, from those who look with disdain at American "naiveté," while still lamenting the Islamic onslaught.

Now imported to our shores, “hatriotism” is the simplest way to get the growing contingent of professional protestors who populate television audiences to cheer. Mock America. Mock our involvement in Iraq. Mock President Bush and get rousing applause.

The only problem is America has freed my kinsmen.

I am a Persian-Turkish immigrant raised as a Sunni Muslim, and in the interest of full disclosure, I must state that I left Islam in 1982, and became an American citizen. Yet as I survey the current cultural landscape, I cannot help but be less than enthused when Michael Moore states that his film is a call to true patriotism.

The present conflict is not a war against Islam, and neither is it a "war for oil." In the previous six military endeavors, American troops sided with Muslims who were under attack, and there are much less extreme methods of garnering oil. This is a war of ideologies, and with Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore clearly shows his.

His visual narrative of Lila Lipscombe, a Flint, Michigan mother who sent her sons to the military and "lives to regret it," as Roger Friedman of FOXNews.com notes, is "unexpectedly poignant."

I wonder- was Moore equally moved when he heard of the honor killings which daily threatened the lives of Muslim women in Afghanistan? Was he equally as outraged at the female circumcision practices in my countrymen's lands, because it lessens the threat of adultery?

In fact, I wonder where were all the "hatriots" when our soldiers freed all the women of Afghanistan from the Taliban? Where were the feminists when our soldiers liberated the Afghan women to be educated for the first time in years?

The irony is, for all of their false bravado behind the First Amendment and their right to "free speech," the hatriots are exercising this right because American men and women shed their blood to afford them this right against those who would seek to oppress it. I would invite Michael Moore to my homeland to make a movie criticizing Turkish oppression and see what happens. The freedom he enjoys now was purchased with a dear price.

The central fact of the current controversy is the conflict between Islamic theocracy and American democracy. Islam has not now nor has it ever allowed religious freedom or freedom of expression. The best the Islamic republics can offer is "religious toleration." Based on the "Pact of Umar," religious toleration allows non-Muslims to enter Islamic republics, but they must pay a tax (jizyat). They can practice their faiths, but they cannot convert anyone from Islam. To do so means deportation or worse.

Further, Islamic prophecy foretells of worldwide conversion to Sharia law under Islam, and thus, those who are fighting against us are "holy warriors." In this instance, I would say our president is half-right. He says we are not at war with Islam. I agree. However, a significant portion of Islam is in fact at war with us. And Michael Moore is blind to it all.

The clearest definition of religious freedom and freedom of expression I can make is this- the religious freedom America offers means that I would fight and die for a Muslim's right to build a Mosque in every city in America. It is precisely this freedom for which our soldiers are fighting.

In recent days, it has become fashionable for those like Moore to say, "I support the troops, but not the war." This is the equivalent to saying, "I support doctors but not surgery." The position they hold is ludicrous at best, and insulting at worst. When my brother, also a professor and my co-author in five books, and I came out in support of the Iraqi intervention, we began to be accosted by peace protestors when we spoke. I found this amusing. Allow me to say it emphatically: I support the troops and their mission.

Our soldiers- your sons and daughters- are fighting to preserve Michael Moore's freedom to produce such works that mock their very existence. I hope he realizes that. They are allowing my countrymen the right to freely express themselves without being stoned to death as a consequence. Or have their heads severed slowly while their executioners are chanting "Allah hu Akbar."

There is one final irony. There is a film producer who has worked for years, chasing down Michael Moore in an effort to interview him. The young man, named Michael Wilson, is making a documentary titled Michael Moore Hates America. So far, Moore has dodged him at every turn. Anyone who knows cinema recognizes that this is the exact tactic Moore took in his film "Roger and Me," as he chased an automobile executive for an interview. Do you see the paradox? Because Michael Moore is now in the mainstream of “hatriotism”, and now the young conservatives are the radicals, Moore has become his own worst nightmare. Michael Moore has become that which he mocked. He has become an aloof elite.

Count me among the radicals.

Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner is author of Christian Jihad (Kregel 2004), and is professor of Theology and Church History at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. You can contact him at www.erguncaner.com.

6 posted on 07/08/2004 1:25:48 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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