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Teen pointed gun at mother's head for minutes before killing her [Ritalin used]
WHEC TV-10 ^ | July 8, 2004 | AP

Posted on 07/09/2004 8:41:56 AM PDT by Gun142

Teen pointed gun at mother's head for minutes before killing her

(Rochester-AP) -- A teenager has told police he aimed a shotgun at the back of his mother's head as she lay on the living-room couch watching television. Eighteen-year-old Nathan DeWispelaere said told police he stood with the gun about two feet from his mother's head thinking for a few minutes before shooting her in May. DeWispelaer was indicted last month. He has pleaded innocent to second-degree murder in the killing of his mother, Lizabeth at their home in Sparta in rural western New York. DeWispelaer told police his mother had harangued him about using drugs after she found his prescribed Ritalin crushed into a powder he planned to snort. DeWispelaer's elder brother died of a drug overdose last year. The two-page statement to police was made available by the prosecutor's office today after the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle filed a lawsuit to obtain transcripts of a preliminary hearing had been closed to the public.


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1 posted on 07/09/2004 8:41:57 AM PDT by Gun142
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To: Gun142

I suppose it would be wrong to point out that because he was able to think about it for a few minutes, then there's obviously no basis for an ADD diagnosis?


2 posted on 07/09/2004 8:44:13 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: kevkrom

" because he was able to think about it for a few minutes, then there's obviously no basis for an ADD diagnosis?"

If it weren't for a murder being involved, I would've LMAO at that!


3 posted on 07/09/2004 8:45:52 AM PDT by Blzbba (Hillary Clinton - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Gun142

Well, I guess the Ritalin helped with his ADD, didn't it?


4 posted on 07/09/2004 8:48:03 AM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: RichInOC

Sounds like the kid may have watched someone (his brother) snort something to even know about crushing a pill to enhance the effect?


5 posted on 07/09/2004 8:49:19 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Gun142

Where is the father?.......


6 posted on 07/09/2004 8:50:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: Gun142
2nd degree murder?

I think not.

Indict, convict, execute.

7 posted on 07/09/2004 8:56:02 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Gun142

Ritalin dosent kill people people do


8 posted on 07/09/2004 9:03:27 AM PDT by al baby
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To: G.Mason
2nd degree murder? I think not.

I assume this is New York State. The only way to get a 1st degree murder charge is to kill a police officer, officer of the court, or to kill someone in the commision of another crime. Any other premeditated murder is 2nd degree at most -- no death sentence available.

9 posted on 07/09/2004 9:31:00 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: sarasota

"Sounds like the kid may have watched someone (his brother) snort something to even know about crushing a pill to enhance the effect?"

This is common knowledge. He didn't have to watch someone.


10 posted on 07/09/2004 9:33:30 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

It is? I must have missed the memo.


11 posted on 07/09/2004 9:36:51 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Gun142

So teens who are NOT on Ritalin don't kill people? Is that what you consider to be the point of this article??


12 posted on 07/09/2004 9:38:38 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: kevkrom
"I assume this is New York State. The only way to get a 1st degree murder charge is to kill a police officer, officer of the court, or to kill someone in the commision of another crime. Any other premeditated murder is 2nd degree at most -- no death sentence available."

You are, no doubt, correct.

My statement was the "world acording to G.Mason", which like my stand on many things I hold dear, are antiquated, and quite meaningless to most. ;)

13 posted on 07/09/2004 9:45:40 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Politicalmom
So teens who are NOT on Ritalin don't kill people? Is that what you consider to be the point of this article??

The point of the article is some punk killed his mother.

The point of my posting this article is there seems to be a trend of teens who use prescribed, mind-altering drugs may be less inhibited to kill someone for stupid reasons and in near bizarre manners.

It's not normal to kill your mom, it's really not normal to point a gun at her head and ponder whether it's right or wrong because she might embarrass you with friends.


“She didn't really say anything at first,” the statement read. “She just started in with the questioning. She wanted to know what it was and whose it was and where I got it from. She is really sensitive about drugs because of what happened with JJ (DeWispelaere's older brother, John J. DeWispelaere, who died unexpectedly in 2003). JJ died of an overdose of drugs and alcohol. We argued about the paper with the Ritalin …

“She said she was having the paper and powder tested and me drug-tested. After the lecture/argument was done, Mom went in and laid on the couch and was watching TV.

“I went into my room. I was very upset. I was very scared that Mom would be disappointed in me. I knew Mom would not let this just drop. I knew she would now go out and question all my friends. I didn't want her causing trouble with my friends and their parents. Mom is a kind of rabble-rouser. She gets onto something and doesn't let it go. I didn't want Mom blowing this whole thing out of proportion.

“She wouldn't have let me out of her sight from then on. She would not let this go. She probably wouldn't even let me go to college because she wouldn't want me into the drugs.”

DeWispelaere then got his shotgun, according to the statement. “As I was standing there, I don't think that Mom knew I was there. I (pulled) the trigger and Mom was shot in the top of her head.”


Sounds like mom didn't want to lose another kid.....
I believe the Ritalin affected his judgment, don't you?
14 posted on 07/09/2004 9:58:24 AM PDT by Gun142 (This message has not been approved by don-o)
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Second-degree my ass.

This was pure pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder.

Sounds like the DA was inept, if you ask me.

15 posted on 07/09/2004 10:00:48 AM PDT by mhking (John Kerry & Al Gore: Cut from the same tree.)
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To: Gun142
I have read that Ritalin's effect on teens, unlike young children, is almost the same as that of cocaine. The effect of cocaine may be illustrated by this: a few years ago in our town, a man stabbed his girlfriend 234 times after snorting a great quantity of coke. I have to wonder why a teenaged boy was prescribed Ritalin.
16 posted on 07/09/2004 10:06:25 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Gun142

Not unless it was poorly prescribed. Many times lack of impulse control is one of the reasons for these drugs.


17 posted on 07/09/2004 10:10:34 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Politicalmom
His reason for this drug was ADD.

He was having trouble working on his high school senior paper about doctor-assisted suicide. He has attention deficit disorder and takes the drug Ritalin “to keep me focused.”

To be kept focused, not controlled (according to the info we're given).

When I was a kid in school, there was no ADD, just lazy butts. Now it's a "disease".
Of course, when I was a kid, those guys didn't get pills; they got a board to the bottom. Funny how that usually straightened them out.
18 posted on 07/09/2004 10:22:51 AM PDT by Gun142 (This message has not been approved by don-o)
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To: kevkrom
You cant know what its like having ADD.
You don't have to have your meds in you to concentrate for a few seconds. only if u new something about it and didn't make statments blindly. why don't you go and read up on this stuff. then get back to me and let me know if I right or not ok.
19 posted on 09/27/2004 6:15:08 PM PDT by Ragin
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There are things since the time that you were school. you know what there called don't you? how about medical breakthroughs. technology has helped us progress in the field of medicine. thats why we can cure more diesas and even diagnose new ones.


20 posted on 09/27/2004 8:28:06 PM PDT by Ragin
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