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To: Ajnin
How is identifying myself going to give me standing and accountability? What do these things have to do with anything that has been said?

Both of you present yourself to the forum as ex-Marines who are currently active duty LEO's with the Border Patrol. With the presumed sanctions and responsibilities ... including proxy to use lethal force ... those positions entail.

Both of you actively corrupt - anonymously - the vital sanctity of duty and command authority that is the foundation of military and LEO cohesiveness. You come onto this forum and openly disparage your commanding officers and the orders, laws and policies they hand down, and of which you are sworn as LEOs to uphold. One wonders how self-professed Marines can compromise their training to maintain the sanctity of command discipline and unit cohesiveness so readily. For this audience.

And, don't give me any private citizen "free speech" hoopty doo. When you seize the deference and presumed legitimacy given to "insiders", then use it to promote political agendas, your identities become open to scrutiny.

You have no business posting, as anonymous yet self-professed Federal Agents, to an internet forum. No former Marine, no active duty Federal LEO, worthy of respect would be here making editorial comments or working political agendas.

Who are you?

65 posted on 07/11/2004 5:45:26 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

I noticed your profile page is empty. How interesting that you berate me for not id'ing myself when you don't have the sack to do the same.


71 posted on 07/11/2004 5:49:11 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Barlowmaker
Both of you actively corrupt - anonymously - the vital sanctity of duty and command authority that is the foundation of military and LEO cohesiveness. You come onto this forum and openly disparage your commanding officers and the orders, laws and policies they hand down, and of which you are sworn as LEOs to uphold. One wonders how self-professed Marines can compromise their training to maintain the sanctity of command discipline and unit cohesiveness so readily. For this audience.

That's actually amusing.

Where does their ultimate loyalty lie? To their superiors or to the American people and the duty they are sworn to perform?

Before I retired from the Army, we had mandatory classes at least yearly on the UCMJ and ethics. One of the things pounded into us was that if we had knowledge of malfeasance or negligence on the part of anyone up or down our food chain and remained silent, then we could be held equally culpable.

So what are these guys supposed to do when their food chain -- all the way to the top -- is totally non-responsive? Especially when the food chain chooses to ignore the laws of the land and their sole motivation is not operational concerns, but plain old political expediency?

Are they supposed to just remain silent and hope the situation doesn't get worse?

97 posted on 07/11/2004 6:16:35 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Barlowmaker
Who are you?

Who are you?

108 posted on 07/11/2004 6:26:41 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Stan Barnes for Congress (http://www.stanbarnes.com/))
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