Remember Buchanan's convention speech in Houston?

[Don Joe]

When did the Republicans ever have the Jewish vote? They love big government socialism in every country in which they vote. They are far more frightened of Christians than they are of Al Queda.

Ah, yes... those Jews, those Jews, those Jews.

Those, they, them.

Good thing "they" are such a monolithic bloc, unlike any other "they" (except for perhaps "those blacks", eh?), so it's so easy to classify "them".

What's that foul stench I smell wafting in the air?

Ah, yes. It's the stench of history, repeating itself.

Don "I am one very offended conservative Jew" Joe

[evilC]

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"accurate, non-offensive term" ... OK there was just the /tiniest/ bit of mischief in my use of Zio-con. However, I do not see conservative as synonymous with "pro-Israel". I was trying to separate those conservatives for whom Israel is most important and those for whom other issues (e.g. taxes, guns, or abortion) are most important.

This will have to be my last word, it is time for me to go to bed; I have had enough of Pat, hyphenated-cons, and lost "moderate" voters, and I need my sleep.

[streetpreacher]

Same could be said of Reagan and Ford in 76.

[bayourod]

"Of course there is a religious war going on in this country between the religious and the secularists?"

WAR!.The word is W A R.

Do you have any concept of the meaning of the word war?

The is no war taking place within the U.S. except the war on terror.

What if I said that all Bush supporting FReepers should declare WAR on Buchanan pukes? Expose their real names, hunt them down, destroy their reputations, harass their families, demand they be fired from their jobs, burn down their houses, and kill them.

That's what WAR is, and Buchanan was wrong to say that there is a cultural/religious war taking place, because he was trying to mobilize weak-minded extremist to engage in acts of WAR.

[SJackson]

In case you haven't noticed, Pat isn't responsible for much of anything he says. The rest of us just misunderstand him.

[L.N. Smithee]

Rove picking NYC was stroke of genius.

Rove thinks he's a genius. I don't. Like Muhammad Ali vs. George Foreman, Rove uses the rope-a-dope strategy, minus any indication that he will ever hit back eventually.

I'll say it for the umpteenth time -- Rove is luckier than he will ever be good.

Remember Yvette Lozano? Rove recklessly hired a mole at Bush headquarters that sent debate plans to a Gore supporter, who, to his credit, returned the documents unopened.

If not for the butterfly ballot and a perfect storm of circumstances in Florida, Gore might have been President, and Rove would be consulting for some West Texas congressional candidate. Maybe.

[L.N. Smithee]

What if I said that all Bush supporting FReepers should declare WAR on Buchanan pukes? Expose their real names, hunt them down, destroy their reputations, harass their families, demand they be fired from their jobs, burn down their houses, and kill them.

That's what WAR is, and Buchanan was wrong to say that there is a cultural/religious war taking place, because he was trying to mobilize weak-minded extremist to engage in acts of WAR.

Let me get this straight: are you intimating that Buchanan was actually trying to incite violence with that speech?

[GreatOne]

I won a bet with a friend in law school in the mid-1990s, who called Buchanan's speech one of the most hate-filled speeches ever. I gave him a copy of the transcript and asked him to find the hate. After a few furious minutes of looking, he literally flung the transcript back at me and said it was Buchanan's "tone".

People who disparage this speech are nothing more than iberal scumbags.

[L.N. Smithee]

This year our convention will be full of moderates and boring speeches. Would you prefer conservative speeches that speak to many of our values AND the months of media criticism and labeling of the GOP as hateful? I would. Reagan spread the conservative word and I think the GOP of the 21st century should do the same and stop trying to run from our values.

What I would like to see on day one is a point-by-point refutation of whatever Kerry says at the Demo confab. He has shown no capacity to formulate workable ideas, and will rely on razzle-dazzle and news media collusion to obscure that fact in the short months before the vote.

[Howlin]

People who disparage this speech are nothing more than iberal scumbags.

I didn't like it at all.

[Howlin]

In case you haven't noticed, Pat isn't responsible for much of anything he says. The rest of us just misunderstand him.

I thought that was Alan Keyes.

[Texas Federalist]

WAR!.The word is W A R. Do you have any concept of the meaning of the word war? The is no war taking place within the U.S. except the war on terror. What if I said that all Bush supporting FReepers should declare WAR on Buchanan pukes? Expose their real names, hunt them down, destroy their reputations, harass their families, demand they be fired from their jobs, burn down their houses, and kill them. That's what WAR is, and Buchanan was wrong to say that there is a cultural/religious war taking place, because he was trying to mobilize weak-minded extremist to engage in acts of WAR.

The word war has two meanings. Do you seriously believe he called for "armed conflict?" Even the press wouldn't try to argue that whopper. See the second definition below from Merriam-Webster dictionary.

Main Entry: 1war

Pronunciation: 'wor

Function: noun

Usage: often attributive

Etymology: Middle English werre, from Old North French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse

1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : STATE OF WAR b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war

2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end c :

[Josh in PA]

The fact that the election was that close, is a testament to Rove.

Bush being elected in 00 would be on par with Dukakis beat Bush 41 in 88. 8 years of good economic growth and the VP falls short!

Rove is the man.

[Badeye]

"The list goes on. By bumping Ronald Reagan in favor of Pat Buchanan, the Republican party appeared at worst to embrace these views, at best to embrace those who hold them.

A stupid decision, imo, Pat had no place speaking for the Republican Party. Of course facts have born that out."

Yep, thats a great summation. In hindsight, I've often wondered if Buchanan actually "planned" the negative reaction by average voters before the speech.

Because one thing is certain, from that point onward Buchanan was on his own personal "Jihad" against the Republican Party that dared to say "no thanks" to his views, his candidacy, and of course against the Bush family in particular.

I think the real "tale of the tape" however is the fact at this point Buchanan's resume' includes being cancelled on MSNBC due to complete and utter lack of interest.

[junta]

I thought we were all Americans? Take a memo; Multi-culturalism will become as hated as Communism regardless of the propaganda.

[Jn316]

WOW, WHAT A SPEECH!!!

That almost brought me too tears! Unreal.

[SJackson]

Why did I bring up Duke? Because, from what I know of Louisiana's politics, the David Duke of 1991 ran on what is a rather typical conservative Republican platform. I do not believe he uttered one word in support in re-instituting segregation in Louisiana, which he wouldn't have been able to do anyway for a myriad of reasons.

Yes, he said he’d given up his racist ways, but he lied. I believe he admitted he hadn’t “reformed” in an interview a few months after the election. And his post election record proves. The Republicans did the right thing. Imagine a racist Duke in Congress with an (R) after his name.