The love that dares not neigh its name

Cox News Service ^ | July 13, 2004 | Jay Bookman

[Taliesan]

Again, doctors and scientists have no more "credentials" to declare a sex act "normal" than you or I do.

[tdadams]

Yeah, except this isn't one of those "emperor has no clothes" scenario.

[bvw]

That is a non-sequitor. But it logically continues your illogic.

[bvw]

That is a non-sequitor. But it logically continues your illogic.

[BMiles2112]

You're welcome :-)
I couldn't let the post go without a challenge.

[stands2reason]

What's even sadder is that both liberals and conservatives will read this and say they've already heard the other side and they don't want any part of it

Many of us over here do know the other (left) side. It's not that difficult to understand. We were infused with it in public school, by TV and the rest of the media. And many of us are former liberals.

I voted for Bill Clinton TWICE --- go ahead, tell me I don't know what the liberal side is about.

[Ichneumon]

What, 200+ replies and no mention yet of this?

[PreviouslyA-Lurker]

The little guy was a little bit tunnel visioned, ignoring facts.

I wish I remembered sources and the facts better.

[backinthefold]

( I really started a stink here :)

[tdadams]

You think it's logical to take a layman's word at face value when they say a doctor or scientist is wrong? If I said you needed a kidney transplant and your doctor said you're fine, would you take my word for it?

Inquiring into someone's credentials - what makes them qualified to state a doctor or scientist is wrong - is not only thoroughly logical, you would be illogical and remiss to not inquire. Only a fool would take the word of the layman at face value.

But to each his own.

[BMiles2112]

Live. Be free. Pursue happiness. But you should not do is try and link individual desires to the yoke of the taxpayer, or play with the building blocks of human society. Society does not need gay marriage in order to survive, but it does need to protect heterosexual marriage. Civilization is built off of millions of families producing children the same way your body produces cells. Without a stable process for doing so, your body would not be viable. Conversely, there is no (to borrow a phrase) Queer Nation. They have no need to procreate, nor do they need the institutions that protect procreation. People that are gay will appear as always, and seek each other out. Convenient, yes, but it leaves the heavy lifting to others.
Excellent. This argument, along with the polygamy (or group marriage or I want to marry my city) scenario, are the ones, in my opinion, which are the clearest and most logical arguments we can make to challenge the notion of "gay marriage".

[PreviouslyA-Lurker]

Another reason to believe that anal sex is not healthy:

A friend of mine worked as an editor for a doctors medical magazine. She edited an article that stated as fact that with extended abuse of the anus in anal sex the "victim" would eventually ruin the sphincter muscle thereby needing a bag to hold their feces.

Doesn't sound healthy to me...

[Let's Roll]

Whoa - excellent point.

And welcome back.

[bvw]

So you want only the qualified truth?

[backinthefold]

thanks :)

good to be back in the conservative fold

[BMiles2112]

I know what you mean. I try not to cite facts unless I've got a reliable source on hand. Otherwise somebody's gonna nail ya.

[trisham]

.....bisexuality is common in a majority of people...few people are either totally straight or totally gay,

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On what do you base this unlikely opinion?

[Jayhuck]

1) That's actually not the whole truth, and anal sex does not ruin the sphincter, although other practices can

2) Many gay couples don't practice anal sex, and some straight couples do. So what's the point here?

[Jayhuck]

Does this mean I can stop paying that portion of my taxes that promote straight marriage........or do we continue with the double standard?

[babaloo999]

Just remember this is an anonymous forum.
Name calling and humor at the expense of others is a small part of the price one pays to get on these internet forums.
There have been many "moderate" conservatives on here lately. They eventually degenerate into some "I voted Bush in 2000 but...." sideshow.
It's a big tent here. Go to a WOD thread, or a creation/evo thread. Then, there's this one, it's turned into "born homosexual or is it learned?"
Many differing opinions here, it's just that a lot of ideas from the left get struck down because they've already been discredited over and over.
There is lot of useful information here. You just have to dodge the trolls, drug warriors, and the libertarian church ladies to find the good stuff.
I would stay away from the trolls. Sometimes they just explode.