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PI digs into Kerry's war past (Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)
The Dallas Morning News ^ | 7/13/04 | Wayne Slater

Posted on 07/13/2004 7:19:59 AM PDT by Gothmog

Group defends investigation; veterans say comments distorted

AUSTIN – Opponents of John Kerry have hired a Dallas-area private investigator to gather information aimed at discrediting his military service, say several veterans who served with the Massachusetts Democrat in Vietnam.

Several veterans who have been contacted in recent days accused the private investigator, Tom Rupprath of Rockwall, of twisting their words to produce misleading and inaccurate accounts that call into doubt the medals Mr. Kerry received for his service.

"They're just distorting things," said Jim Wasser, who served with Mr. Kerry. "They have nothing to go after John Kerry for, so now they're trying to discredit him."

Mr. Rupprath was hired by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth on the recommendation of Merrie Spaeth, a Dallas public relations executive assisting the anti-Kerry group.

The investigator declined to discuss his work, but Ms. Spaeth said he is a former FBI agent assigned to produce an accurate and objective account of how the Democratic presidential candidate earned his combat medals.

"You need to have a third eye that looks at this, somebody who even though you hired him, people know that his integrity is unquestioned and who puts this together the way an investigator would look at it," said Ms. Spaeth, who was a communications adviser in the Reagan White House.

The Kerry campaign accused Swift Boat Veterans of being a politically motivated group with ties to the Republican Party and the Bush administration. The Bush campaign says it is not associated with the group.

Political campaigns routinely gather information on opponents but typically use consultants or campaign aides rather than private investigators, according to political experts.

The hiring of a licensed private investigator to make calls in recent days appeared to suggest that the Kerry foes are preparing a stepped-up assault on his military record as the election approaches.

"This is unusual in that it appears to be push research and not real research," said Glenn Smith, a Democratic consultant and author of the book The Politics of Deceit. "Push research means you have a conclusion, and you're going to talk to people and push their words to reach your conclusion."

Challenging record

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth held a news conference in May in Washington to level a sharp critique at the senator. Members of the group, including veterans who had served with Mr. Kerry, have criticized his anti-war testimony before Congress in 1971 and questioned the circumstances under which he earned three Purple Hearts.

The organization is known as a "527" for the tax code provision under which it is organized. It can raise money for voter drives and issue advertising so long as it does not coordinate with the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign.

A spokesman for the organization, John O'Neill, is a lawyer in Houston. He succeeded Mr. Kerry as commander of his swift boat in Vietnam and was recruited by the Nixon administration in the 1970s to counter Mr. Kerry's anti-war comments.

Mr. O'Neill and other members of the Swift Boat Veterans group have challenged whether Mr. Kerry deserved his combat medals and contend he is unfit to serve as commander in chief.

Grant Hibbard, a commander when Mr. Kerry reported his first injury in Vietnam, said the wound was most likely self-inflicted and the report at the time indicated there was no enemy fire.

Veterans who were on the boat with Mr. Kerry give a different version. Pat Runyon said the crew was patrolling north of Cam Ranh Bay the night of Dec. 2, 1968, when Mr. Kerry and fellow crewman Bill Zaledonis spotted Viet Cong guerrillas massed on a beach and began firing.

He said Mr. Kerry was subsequently treated for a wound to the arm, which led to his first Purple Heart.

Mr. Runyon said he recounted the episode for the private investigator because he gave the impression he was working for an independent or pro-Kerry veterans group. But Mr. Ruynon said he was distressed when the investigator sent him an inaccurate synopsis of their conversation suggesting that the wound was probably caused by a flare.

"I have no problems with the truth as long as they put it out the way it happened," he said. "But I told him I didn't want him to use it, didn't like it and felt he'd missed the whole feeling of the mission."

Mr. Rupprath would say only that his investigation is continuing.

"We have not talked about this publicly because I don't think we have a full understanding," he said. "We're not making any accusations until I think we have them truly buttoned up and can be presented in as authentic and credible a manner as possible."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004presidential
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Good news, but kind of slanted coverage
1 posted on 07/13/2004 7:20:01 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog

Maybe it will be found out how he spent only 4 months on a 12 month tour.


2 posted on 07/13/2004 7:23:26 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Gothmog

This sort of coverage is a defensive move. Bad things will come out from this investigation. Things that hurt Kerry. And so, the first news reports will be focused on Kerry defenders saying, "The Bush people are hatching a plot. They're going to start telling all sort of lies about Kerry's service ..."


3 posted on 07/13/2004 7:24:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: Gothmog

Amazing, no mention of the one time a Presidential candidate actually hired a PI.


4 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:52 AM PDT by Ghost in the Machine (Yes, I exist. No, I am not a virus.)
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To: Ghost in the Machine

"Political campaigns routinely gather information on opponents but typically use consultants or campaign aides rather than private investigators, according to political experts."

Yeah, right, I wonder what 'experts' these are. The consultants hire the PI's, not the campaign.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 7:30:29 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Gothmog
From the article:

The Kerry campaign accused Swift Boat Veterans of being a politically motivated group with ties to the Republican Party and the Bush administration.

Well, if that's the case, it should be easy enough to prove. Just show everybody the basis of the accusation. I'm sure all the networks will be more than happy to carry it.

</sarcasm>

6 posted on 07/13/2004 7:31:17 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Gothmog
Jug Burkett (Author - STOLEN VALOR) is also working on Kerry. And I think Burkett has been talking to John O'Neill.

If kerry has anything hidden they will find it.

7 posted on 07/13/2004 7:32:41 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: Gothmog

Very interesting. I like it when Kerry's guys sweat. "Push research" indeed. The Dims INVENTED it!







thank you for not excerpting.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 7:34:16 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: ClearCase_guy

I love how the media and Kerry people attempting to push this as a Bush campaign plot, but the reality remains Kerry's only been presented as this all-American war hero that he continues to make into why he should be president, but here are most of the people who served alongside him and an amazing 4 month service by Kerry in Vietnam and getting out due to an astounding 3 Purple Hearts and coming home after those few months to say how attrocities were committed by all the soldiers and an agenda. These men have all the credentials to challenge Kerry on this and the media knows this and will attempt to keep their identity unknown. These men are true heroes and the fact remains the issues are real in why so many Vietnam and other veterans are against Kerry and the media attempts to hide Kerry's full record. If he's going to push "I am a Vietnam war hero"-the true heroes have the right to reveal his real contribution.


9 posted on 07/13/2004 7:37:42 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: Gothmog

As far as I am concerned, shining light on Kerry's anti-war testimony before Congress in 1971 is all that is necessary. There is no need to question his service and it mainly provides an opening to pro-Kerry posturing and Bush service bashing. There has been far too little of his Senate testimony released (or at least reported on). However, the true disgrase of his "service" is found in the garbage he spouted after his return.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 7:37:47 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: Gothmog
You missed my point.

Clinton himself hired a PI back in '92 to hunt down people who could expose his "bimbo eruptions".

OK?

12 posted on 07/13/2004 7:38:49 AM PDT by Ghost in the Machine (Yes, I exist. No, I am not a virus.)
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To: Gothmog

John O'Neill was on local radio this morning. He said that JFnK's 3rd purple heart was originally denied by his C.O. His fellow-vets thought that was the end of it until Kerry launched his Presidential campaign in 2003...only then did they realize he had somehow obtained that 3rd medal, and NO ONE is forthcoming with the details of how he acquired it.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 7:48:08 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper (o)(o)....Keeping abreast for 50 years now.)
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To: Piquaboy
"Maybe it will be found out how he spent only 4 months on a 12 month tour."

I'm sure he lost interest after he got his "Trophy Kill". With his connections, it wouldn't have been difficult to move on to bigger and better things like the peace movement.

Kerry is just like Clinton in that he's out to satisfy his needs and interests and I believe he is a thrill seeker. Commitment and doing what's right for the good of the country isn't something he comprehends.

14 posted on 07/13/2004 7:48:55 AM PDT by FireTrack
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To: Gothmog
"They have nothing to go after John Kerry for, so now they're trying to discredit him."

But I thought that, in his own words, he participated in "...machine-gunning civilians, burning villages, killing livestock for fun...?"

15 posted on 07/13/2004 7:49:27 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Ghost in the Machine

Oh, I got your point, and it was a good one. I was just adding to it. Slater got the slant on the answer he wanted -- 'that hiring PIs is unusual' -- by reporting the answer from 'experts' in a very specific fashion.

You know what I mean, if the question was 'do campaigns use PIs,' the experts would have said, 'yes, all the time.' But by framing it as 'do campaigns hire PIs,' then he gets the answer he wants. Very Clintonian.


16 posted on 07/13/2004 7:54:57 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Gothmog; All

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17 posted on 07/13/2004 8:08:43 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: EggsAckley

Re: excerpting -- If I had a billion dollars I'd take the media whores to court on it.


18 posted on 07/13/2004 8:11:34 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Gothmog
Screwing around with the language is what George Orwell was warning us about in 1984. The lamestream media prove him right every day.
19 posted on 07/13/2004 8:36:31 AM PDT by Ghost in the Machine (Yes, I exist. No, I am not a virus.)
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To: Gothmog
A "feel the fear" bump...
20 posted on 07/13/2004 8:38:41 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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