Posted on 07/14/2004 1:18:13 PM PDT by CHARLITE
One has to wonder if the people at Moveon.org are a bunch of these "lily whites".
That word best describes the whole briefcase/suitcase nuke issue!
Positively no way this could happen. A suitcase nuke is extremely heavy, and would take two of the biggest and strongest men on earth to even move it.
Well, watch the video. It's from the DOE nuclear history archives. The package is quite heavy.
Our Davy Crockett warhead weighed in at about ninety to a hundred ten pounds, without it's tail. You (well, I don't know you, but you know what I mean) could backpack a hundred pounds. I've done it, I could probably pack 150 for a couple miles. A fit, trained soldier can pack more. I don't think the "suitcase" nuke has a carry handle for a one-hand haul, IMO.
Innit inaressting that all these terror threats involve Soviet nukes, and never Davy Crockett, SADM, W54 or any of OUR stuff? Nobody shows up with a NIKE warhead, befor the days of PALs and day codes et al?
Because Paul L. Williams is a panic merchant making wild, unconnected and unfounded claims in order to hype his sucker bait book
That may be for a early polonium "urchin". But they are probably too unreliable to be used in anything other than a big crude overdesigned Hiroshima or Nagasaki sized weapon.
Tritium initiaters may be good for up to a year. (with reducing effectiveness - on some early variable-yield bombs the yield was "selected" by how long the bomb had been in the stockpile, unmaintaned)
I've got a problem with this statement.
I will tell you straight off I don't know the detailed physics related to these "suitcase nukes" or how they differ from designs utilized in U.S. strategic weapons.
What I do know, from having served in the U.S. Submarine Service, is that the U.S. over the past 40 years regularly deploys U.S. Submarines to sea for periods well beyond 60 days. Most of these Subs carried either missles (Polaris [A1,A2,A3], Poseiden [C3] or Trident [C4,D5] and/or various Nuke tipped torpedos - various. Depending upon the class of Sub, it may also carry W-80 Nuke tipped Tomahawk cruise missles.
I can assure you, we didn't go home after 60 days!
OMG, not 20 suitcase nukes! If there was only a book I could buy!?
/rhetorical question generator
Davy Crockett and other tactical nukes weight is minus the shipping/storage container, which acts as a shield. The suitcase/briefcase nukes would have to be encapsuled in a very heavy shielded case. Heavy lifting on the order of an Arnold workout would be required to haul one of these mythical nukes around.
In my (not so humble) opinion, suitcase nukes exist only im the minds of those whose aim is to either terrorize or sell news print that will have the same effect. Recall the media diagrams of the Afghanistan caves? Turned out to be pure BS. Same thing will eventually be the fate of the suitcase nukes! C'mon folks! Lets start sorting out the raisins from the rabbit droppings!
You were lucky the guy didn't know the market. They're out of stock at www.villainsupply.com @ $12M (Uranium not included). But that's for Soviet trained assembly - you may have got some Chinese/Pak copy, they misfire a lot.
Hit the switch with a hammer.
recent activities of the Al Qaeda prove they are trying all they can to terrorize the United States, particularly for the cause of the Iraq war led by the conservative administration
if they have 20 bombs which can be so-call anywhere hidden enough, why don't they explode one of them to prove that they are nuclear armed, and obviously as anybody with strategy thinking, such behavior will certainly make even the most conservative turn liberal, the matter I think isn't of the impending terrorist attack close to the US election in November or prior to November,because very apparently they can destroy the conservative agenda,the problem is whether they can(hijacking planes is not as sophisticated as making ICMBS) and they will(any difference for them whether Demorcrats or Republicans)
Don't forget that the Al Qaeda declared responsible for the blackout last year that paralysed the east coast, but such a blackout was later confirmed by a joint enginnering team of both the US and Canadian electric experts(for Canada was also mildly suffered from it, and furthermore Canada will absolutely disclose the truth if it were really a terrorist attack because they have an anti-iraq-war liberal administration that try to prove the current military action will incur more terrorism).Such bluff in my observation occured multiple times(At the beginning I was somehow frightened)I think the propaganda of the terrorism is much greater than the true threat posed by the terrorism.
another inconsistency:
the UN WMD inspection team confirm no WMD in iraq because they do not have the facility or people of expertise, in other words, WMD is somewhat assessible, they cannot be anywhere exist even in my refrigeritor,
the iraq, which is so popular a nation that have very strong desire of obtaining WMD, Saddam Hussien, a ambitious man with billions of dollars of assets(just not to mention the North Korea or Iran, nations that spend hundreds of millions of dollar on such nuclear program still have obastacles to be overcome in order to reluctantly make their nuclear dream implemented).
How can the Al Qaeda as it declared, 30 million for 20 highly modernized suitcase-sized nuke bombs.
but surprisingly the liberal media usually purport such information in obscure manner(they are not certain), those who work for MSNBC,NYTimes,CNN,so on, if that is the truth, I dare bet my
house to say:they will leave New York,Los Angles ASAP if they really believe in nuke bomb placed somewhere closed to the place they live and they work.
recent activities of the Al Qaeda prove they are trying all they can to terrorize the United States, particularly for the cause of the Iraq war led by the conservative administration
if they have 20 bombs which can be so-call anywhere hidden enough, why don't they explode one of them to prove that they are nuclear armed, and obviously as anybody with strategy thinking, such behavior will certainly make even the most conservative turn liberal, the matter I think isn't of the impending terrorist attack close to the US election in November or prior to November,because very apparently they can destroy the conservative agenda,the problem is whether they can(hijacking planes is not as sophisticated as making ICMBS) and they will(any difference for them whether Demorcrats or Republicans)
Don't forget that the Al Qaeda declared responsible for the blackout last year that paralysed the east coast, but such a blackout was later confirmed by a joint enginnering team of both the US and Canadian electric experts(for Canada was also mildly suffered from it, and furthermore Canada will absolutely disclose the truth if it were really a terrorist attack because they have an anti-iraq-war liberal administration that try to prove the current military action will incur more terrorism).Such bluff in my observation occured multiple times(At the beginning I was somehow frightened)I think the propaganda of the terrorism is much greater than the true threat posed by the terrorism.
another inconsistency:
the UN WMD inspection team confirm no WMD in iraq because they do not have the facility or people of expertise, in other words, WMD is somewhat assessible, they cannot be anywhere exist even in my refrigeritor,
the iraq, which is so popular a nation that have very strong desire of obtaining WMD, Saddam Hussien, a ambitious man with billions of dollars of assets(just not to mention the North Korea or Iran, nations that spend hundreds of millions of dollar on such nuclear program still have obastacles to be overcome in order to reluctantly make their nuclear dream implemented).
How can the Al Qaeda as it declared, 30 million for 20 highly modernized suitcase-sized nuke bombs.
but surprisingly the liberal media usually purport such information in obscure manner(they are not certain), those who work for MSNBC,NYTimes,CNN,so on, if that is the truth, I dare bet my
house to say:they will leave New York,Los Angles ASAP if they really believe in nuke bomb placed somewhere closed to the place they live and they work.
if they really have the bomb that can work, they will absolutely send through conventional routine that have to deal with the custom, there are many ways:
such as transport them to the badly defended Canada or Mexico and penetrate the border through means like parachute, light-model aircraft in low altitude to penetrate the airforce national guard, or through things like a aircraft with remote control capacity, and so on.
the point is if 20 bombs which require short term perodic maintainance placed in the most critical metropolitan:
I guess:
D.C
New York
Chicago
L.A
San Francisco
Phalidalphia
Boston
Detroit
Houston
Maimi
Denver
Las vegas
st Louis
Dallas
San Diego
Cleveland
New Orlean
Atlanta
Tampa
Seattle
the FBI just need to check the record of local hospital or nuclear physics labs or University, or any way that can have access nuke-detonating radiological material through commercial means to determine if the 20 bombs can be properly maintained.
There is something wrong with the above article
if they really have the bomb that can work, they will absolutely not deliver them through conventional routine that have to deal with the custom, there are many ways:
such as transport them to the badly defended Canada or Mexico and penetrate the border through means like parachute, light-model aircraft in low altitude to penetrate the airforce national guard, or through things like a aircraft with remote control capacity, and so on.
the point is if 20 bombs which require short term perodic maintainance placed in the most critical metropolitan:
I guess:
D.C
New York
Chicago
L.A
San Francisco
Phalidalphia
Boston
Detroit
Houston
Maimi
Denver
Las vegas
st Louis
Dallas
San Diego
Cleveland
New Orlean
Atlanta
Tampa
Seattle
the FBI just need to check the record of local hospital or nuclear physics labs or University, or any way that can have access nuke-detonating radiological material through commercial means to determine if the 20 bombs can be properly maintained.
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