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Will Doom 3 revive the struggling PC Gaming Industry?
CNN:Money ^ | July 14, 2004 | Chris Morris

Posted on 07/15/2004 7:51:30 AM PDT by Paradox

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Since 2000, developer id Software has told the world the next installment of "Doom," the game that kicked off the action genre, would ship "when it's done."

Good news, gamers: It's done. In the lexicon of the industry, "Doom 3" has gone gold.That means with id Software's work done, publisher Activision is duplicating copies to ship to retail. What it all boils down to is you'll be able to pick up a copy at retail on Aug. 5, though some stores could start selling the game as early as Aug. 3.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: doom3; firstpersonshooter; idsoftware; itsdone; johncarmack
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I remember playing Castle Wolfenstein 3D, but I really cut my teeth on the original DOOM. I would play for hours. I would get kinda sick too, from the 3D immersion effect or something. I called it "getting Doomed". I am hardly into Gaming anymore, but I'll probably pick up a copy of Doom III, just for old times sake.
1 posted on 07/15/2004 7:51:32 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Paradox
Once again, entertainment rules our roost. Why a video game is of any significance to our economy remains one of life's great mysteries.
2 posted on 07/15/2004 7:53:51 AM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: Paradox

Screen shots?


3 posted on 07/15/2004 7:56:16 AM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: Paradox
I would get kinda sick too, from the 3D immersion effect or something.

That's always been my problem with these first person shooters, though I'll probably get Doom III also. Diablo II is my favorite - it's "obsolete" by today's graphical standards, but the playability is such that I still play it all the time.

4 posted on 07/15/2004 7:56:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: krb

bump for screenshots


5 posted on 07/15/2004 7:57:47 AM PDT by Buell_X1-1200 (Sorry, I'm tired of thinking of 'catchy' taglines.)
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To: Buell_X1-1200

6 posted on 07/15/2004 7:59:31 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Hah! My younger brother is a Diablo GHOD! He has played that thing everyway including backwards, and plays till he wins out. Something that some game companies had forgotten, that game PLAYABILITY is key, graphics is secondary. Diablo is a very playable game.

Now that Doom III is "done", I wonder if the owner of the company, John Carmack, will put more effort into his X-prize rocket project.

7 posted on 07/15/2004 8:00:08 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Archangelsk
Why a video game is of any significance to our economy remains one of life's great mysteries.

I think the video game industry is even larger than the film industry now.

8 posted on 07/15/2004 8:00:29 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: Buell_X1-1200

9 posted on 07/15/2004 8:01:06 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; Paradox

Playing video games until you feel sick?


10 posted on 07/15/2004 8:01:31 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Sloth

The profit margins are a lot higher then for movies.


11 posted on 07/15/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Buell_X1-1200
This one looks pretty tough:


12 posted on 07/15/2004 8:01:45 AM PDT by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Diablo II is my favorite - it's "obsolete" by today's graphical standards, but the playability is such that I still play it all the time.

I just started playing it a few weeks ago -- still can't kill Duriel with my 26th-level assassin.

13 posted on 07/15/2004 8:02:25 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: Paradox

I like realistic (no monsters/zombies) games better. Call of Duty rocks. I might play the new Counterstrike when it comes out, though.


14 posted on 07/15/2004 8:02:34 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I love Diablo II,
Something about blowing demons to little bits at the end of the day that makes me smile.


15 posted on 07/15/2004 8:02:41 AM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: Paradox

Check the system requirements. From what I hear Doom III requires a serious gaming system.


16 posted on 07/15/2004 8:03:00 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Bush/Cheney '04 - Win one for the Gipper!!!)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Yep. Far Cry was crawling on my system at anything higher then 1027 by 768 - and I have a 3ghz with a 9800pro! Crazy.


17 posted on 07/15/2004 8:04:09 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Paradox

My gaming background is the same as yours, except I've taken to the Playstation 2.

I will pick up Doom 3, as you said, for old times sake.


18 posted on 07/15/2004 8:04:37 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: BrooklynGOP

I feel yer pain :P


19 posted on 07/15/2004 8:06:05 AM PDT by dagar
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To: BrooklynGOP

I just finished the veteran level of Ghost Recon last night. Great graphics, and pretty good replayability (if thats a word.....LOL)


20 posted on 07/15/2004 8:06:45 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: GreenLanternCorps
From what I hear Doom III requires a serious gaming system.

It does. If your video card is more than a couple years old, it won't be good enough. This game is so anticipated, it'll probably cause a surge in purchases of computer upgrades.

21 posted on 07/15/2004 8:07:06 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Playing video games until you feel sick?

Its a strange effect. I didn't notice it until AFTER I stopped playing the game. I had read something about that in an article, something about virtual reality type games that could make you sick like that. My symptoms were a slight nausea and instability/perception problems. Kinda weird. The mind gets used to the way things look in VR, then takes a while to adjust back to real life. Its called Simulator Sickness.

22 posted on 07/15/2004 8:07:40 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Paradox

I am not hugely into games, but I do play Quake 3 Arena online, where my lucious fembot "Pink" frags with the best of them.

My understanding of Doom 3 is that you better have a water-cooled 3.2Ghz P4 with a 800MHz FSB, and at least a 128MB video card ... otherwise it will be a slide show.


23 posted on 07/15/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by spodefly (i am spodefly, and i approved this post.)
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To: Paradox

Yeah, me too.

I downloaded the shareware version of Wolf 3D off the old Prodigy boards in 1992. I quickly became addicted.

Then, I played hours and hours of Doom and Doom II. Doom II was cool because you could connect with a friend and play online, in a primitive, DOS 6.2 way (a real novelty in those days).

I don't do much gaming anymore, but I'll probably pick up Doom 3 because I liked the first two so much.


24 posted on 07/15/2004 8:08:49 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Paradox
HAAAA!!!! A DOOM 3 THREAD!!!!!

25 posted on 07/15/2004 8:09:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Diablo II "Obsolete"

Goodness help me, I still have the following:

Red Baron
Age of Rifles
Dark Forces

Of course my first PC was:

486DX-2 66mhz
8MB RAM
520MB Hard Drive
2x CD
3.5mm AND a 5.25in Floppies!


26 posted on 07/15/2004 8:09:35 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Bush/Cheney '04 - Win one for the Gipper!!!)
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To: Badeye

I played Raven Shield for quite a while. Great game!
Splinter Cell was cool at first, but I just have no patience for stealth type games :(


27 posted on 07/15/2004 8:10:04 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Paradox

Crap - time for a new video card.


28 posted on 07/15/2004 8:11:37 AM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: GreenLanternCorps

My first PC was:
286 16mhz
1 meg ram
OAK VGA with 256k
40 meg hard drive

This was like in 1991, so no cd rom :)
Oh, no sound card either, I stripped a wire off the Y cable and wrapper it around a PC Speaker jumper. Plugged it into my boom box, so I could hear .mod, mtm, etc., loud and clear (sorta clear).


29 posted on 07/15/2004 8:12:04 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

You end up having dreams all night where you are moving down corridors, just like in the game. Some games with changing perspective give me a headache within five minutes - Neverwinter Nights did that, and I wanted to like that game. The perspective in Diablo II is always the same, so it doesn't have the negative effects on your eyes and brain. The downside is that because it doesn't really stress your eyes, you can waste hours playing it... ;)


30 posted on 07/15/2004 8:12:52 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: All
Never liked DOOM, Quake, etc. The only first person shooters I've ever played have been the Delta Force series from Novalogic (both single and multiplayer), Ghost Recon and the Medal of Honor series for the PC but only in single player.

Best online game though hands down was/is WWII Online but the developers have their heads stuck so far up their backsides they're going ahead with plans that will ruin the enjoyment of the game. Oh well, I was banned for life for being too vocal about it on the forums so if it tanks it won't hurt me.

31 posted on 07/15/2004 8:13:25 AM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Archangelsk
Once again, entertainment rules our roost. Why a video game is of any significance to our economy remains one of life's great mysteries.

It's what people want. On the flip side, remember that commercial poking fun at the commies who gave no economic value to what people wanted: Eveningvear... very nice.

32 posted on 07/15/2004 8:14:07 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: spodefly

I think it would only be that bad at the highest graphical levels and effects that the game can be set for.


33 posted on 07/15/2004 8:16:42 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Paradox

I thought they fixed that problem with motion sickness by making the screen move around?


34 posted on 07/15/2004 8:17:04 AM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot Moore</a>)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Red Baron was considered a mighty fine flight sim in it's day. I had Aces of the Pacific and Aces Over Europe from the same company (Sierra) and they were excellent games.

Of course, the machine I played them on was:

386sx 20 mghz
2 mgs of RAM (that's right, 2)
40 mg HD
no CD
I'm not sure about the video card, but I remember I had to buy a new one to upgrade to 1 mg so I could play a game that required SVGA.

I wonder how I can justify a motherboard/RAM/CPU upgrade to my wife. I can't tell her I have to upgrade so I can play a game, for cryin' out loud.


35 posted on 07/15/2004 8:17:52 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: COEXERJ145
Medal of Honor series for the PC but only in single player.

If you like Medal of Honor, then make sure to check out Call of Duty (if you haven't yet).

36 posted on 07/15/2004 8:17:56 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Dog Gone

I'm pretty sure my Nvidia 4200(?) is on the very low end of being able to play it.

Alas, having just bought a house, I won't be able to upgrade my AMD system for a while. Le alone finding the time to blast bad guys... :(


37 posted on 07/15/2004 8:17:59 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Bush/Cheney '04 - Win one for the Gipper!!!)
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To: Badeye

I did not know the PC gaming industry was doing bad. From what I gathered it was doing just fine. I do understand that console games have cut into them some. I use my computer for work related things now and just play games on PS2.


38 posted on 07/15/2004 8:18:39 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Skooz
I'm not sure about the video card, but I remember I had to buy a new one to upgrade to 1 mg so I could play a game that required SVGA

I bet it was Trident :)

39 posted on 07/15/2004 8:18:57 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Paradox

My kids are hooked on Star Wars Galaxies and play it online.


40 posted on 07/15/2004 8:19:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase (To democrats the truth is personal.)
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To: Batrachian

Why would you want to play at anything but the highest levels? :)


41 posted on 07/15/2004 8:19:32 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Sloth
I just started playing it a few weeks ago -- still can't kill Duriel with my 26th-level assassin.

Duriel is the hardest Act Boss for melee-combat characters to deal with. Spellcasters can take him out much more easily - my cold Sorceress (now 77th level) took him out with Blizzard in both Normal and Nightmare difficulty in about fifteen seconds.

42 posted on 07/15/2004 8:20:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
You end up having dreams all night where you are moving down corridors, just like in the game.

LOL! You too?

43 posted on 07/15/2004 8:20:14 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Archangelsk
Why a video game is of any significance to our economy remains one of life's great mysteries.

It drives purchases of high-end computer systems. Most people who have any use for a computer at all already have one that is quite good enough for surfing the net, writing letters, balancing the checkbook, etc.

44 posted on 07/15/2004 8:20:24 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Moonman62
On the flip side, remember that commercial poking fun at the commies who gave no economic value to what people wanted: Eveningvear... very nice.

I think that was a Wendy's commercial. Hilarious. Everyone looked like Leonid Brezhnev, including the female models.

I was never a big Doom fan but I think I'll pick up this game. I'm really looking forward to Half-Life 2. However, the game I still play the most is Civ 3.

45 posted on 07/15/2004 8:20:41 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: najida
Something about blowing demons to little bits at the end of the day that makes me smile.

I know - the way they run off when one gets hit, those little Carver guys have "Democrat" written all over them... ;)

46 posted on 07/15/2004 8:21:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Paradox
I still play command and conquer .... guess I will have about 6 years of gaming to catch up on when I am ready ...

Also Warhammer40000: DAWN of WAR is coming out soon

WARHAMMER40K: DAWN OF WAR

47 posted on 07/15/2004 8:21:57 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: BrooklynGOP
Call of Duty ROCKS!!!! The hours I have wasted playing that game til 2-3AM in the morning. Now, with Doom 3 coming out, who is the first that is going to make a Michael Moore Mod? I can imagine monsters with Whoopis, Moores, etc. head on them and the having to clear that level with a rail gun....
48 posted on 07/15/2004 8:22:11 AM PDT by STFrancis
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To: Paradox
I remember playing Castle Wolfenstein 3D, but I really cut my teeth on the original DOOM. I would play for hours.

We would bring our PCs over to a friends house and play it networked. The room we played in didn't have any windows and we went through more than one all night sessions. I had to re-take a few college classes over it.

49 posted on 07/15/2004 8:22:45 AM PDT by killjoy (It takes a Kerry to burn a village.)
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To: BrooklynGOP

If your machine slows to a crawl at the highest settings then you may want to do without some of the effects to be able to play at a decent framerate. When I said levels I meant graphics settings, not actual game levels.


50 posted on 07/15/2004 8:23:04 AM PDT by Batrachian
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