Posted on 07/16/2004 6:36:27 AM PDT by milestogo
I just realized I should have said that China could not win a war with us now. That might change in the future if things keep going the way they are.
...Beijing is becoming increasingly frustrated that the United States does not regard this matter as urgent, said Carpenter, vice president of defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute in Washington.
If United States wants to avoid the line of fire, according to Carpenter, we should make clear to Taiwan that although we support negotiations, we will not defend Taiwan in the event of a military conflict.
We don't want to fight a war with China over Taiwan, he concluded, and that may be the bottom line.
I cannot believe a member of the Cato Institute is spewing this defeatist blather. China is playing the blustering bully as usual. Do any of US need reminding of how one deals with bullies? For pete's sake, it's quite obvious in history's hindsight (both ancient and recent) that a strong show of resolve is what's needed. Simply talk a quiet game while showing them through our actions that we don't give a damn for their crude saber-rattling. Pay lip service to the One China policy while letting it linger on in name only, reinforcing Taiwan's defences for all we're worth, while paying them every diplomatic courtesy possible; welcoming their officials and citizens to our shores and carrying out joint defensive exercises and so on. It would also be a good idea to systematically cut off their access to our dual-use technology and eliminate any military cooperation with the PRC.
If we are serious about avoiding war in the Taiwan Straits than a good, solid show of firm resolve is the only guarantor of "peace" that has ever been shown to work (hello Mr. Chamberlain, hello?),
Does this mean no more cheap furniture?
"If United States wants to avoid the line of fire, according to Carpenter, we should make clear to Taiwan that although we support negotiations, we will not defend Taiwan in the event of a military conflict."
Taiwan = Sudetenland of the 21st Century. All Chinese must be included in the greater Chinese Reich.
Right now, they don't even HAVE to use military power against us. All thye have to do is embargo all sales to the U.S.
Nearly EVERYTHING we buy is made there.
Thanks Richard Nixon, George Bush I and all the Libs, Dems and greedy conservative businessmen who approved of dealing with the devil.
I know it is tracked but it does not take to long to fire its missiles. I hope we have two hunter-killers on it anytime it leaves port.
Thanks for the ping...
Oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch!!!
Do your thing now,,,I'm counting on you.
Not to be a dick or anything, but is the use of the word "chink" really necessary to make your point? Somehow, I don't think so...
They'll go into financial collapse.
BTW, use of vulgarity to describe male genitalia is counter to posting guidelines, you might want to clean up your act.
History has proven that once an aggressor state has struck a staggering blow, others will follow suit. America's wealth and technology are a prize worth gambling for. Any power with enough balls, whiskey and weapons would gladly jump into the maelstrom.
"If we are serious about avoiding war in the Taiwan Straits than a good, solid show of firm resolve is the only guarantor of "peace" that has ever been shown to work (hello Mr. Chamberlain, hello?),"
I agree with your entire post, especially the final observation.
That said, I've noticed for the past decade the Chinese offer up vague mutterings, vague threats, on a regular basis. I suspect its designed much more for internal comsumption than anything else.
Even the Chinese admit, grudgingly, that they have no viable means of attacking Taiwan sucessfully at this time, nor will they for another half dozen years, minimum. Short of nuking Taiwan, there isn't anything they can do but mutter ongoing threats of "doom" for Taiwan, and any that interfere.
Big sign of weakness, in my opinion. After fifty years of this stuff, eventually you gotta take it with a big grain of salt.
Tienanmen should be a huge clue.
The Beijing leaders
REALLY DO NOT
CARE
that much
if they lose even 800,000,000 or more people in a war.
They feel justified seeing China as abused and hemmed in the last 200 years. They consider this slated to be the CHINESE CENTURY if not the CHINESE MILLENIUM.
They figure that regardless of their population losses, there would be at least proportionate losses to their opponents.
They figure they can easily dominate the world that's left.
Part of that is cultural and personal arrogance. Part of it is not that far fetched logic from their perspective.
Of course, they have little clue--in spite of God's massive moves in China--they have little clue that God has a lot more options and a lot more accurate perspective than they do.
This will NOT be the Chinese century.
This will certainly NOT be the Chinese millenium.
This century and the rest of eternity belongs to THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, JESUS, THE CHRIST.
China will meet more than it's match when it descends on Israel as The Bible declares it will--given the givens, in our era. Only the percentage of very authentic Christians in China will be any hint of it's saving grace. China is a more Christian nation in raw numbers than the USA is. Their continued persecution increases their prayer clout.
Chinese leaders also likely believe that we don't have enough nukes to cover their vast country very adequately.
Get over yourself. I used no vulgarity in my post.
Now, keeping in mind that this is the first time I've seen this FReeper post something like that, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see more stuff like it.
When I called YOu a racist, it was because of a continual pattern. But, I don't expect you to grasp the differences.
And besides, looks like the mods pulled the offending post by Lowell, so what more need be said?
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