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Office Messes (Attention Deficit Disorder & ADHD, long read)
NY Times ^ | July 18, 2004 | LISA BELKIN

Posted on 07/17/2004 11:43:25 PM PDT by neverdem

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A trait doesn't necessarily mean having the disorder, just like personality traits don't necessarily mean having a personality disorder.
1 posted on 07/17/2004 11:43:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; ...

PING


2 posted on 07/17/2004 11:45:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Can you summarize this article?

I keep trying to read it, but somehow I always get distracted after a paragraph or two. I have too many things going on, I guess.


3 posted on 07/17/2004 11:57:17 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: neverdem; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim

Long articles like this will never reach their intended audience. <|:)~

4 posted on 07/18/2004 12:00:42 AM PDT by martin_fierro (P a t r v v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Piranha

LOL, make priorities and pay attention!


5 posted on 07/18/2004 12:01:03 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

bttt


6 posted on 07/18/2004 12:16:19 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: neverdem

BTTT for reading tomorrow when I'm awake!


7 posted on 07/18/2004 12:38:02 AM PDT by CedarDave ("Top Secret": Classification used by the media to prevent delivery of positive news on Bush or Iraq)
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To: martin_fierro

Au contraire! Those who have this problem will be VERY interested in the content of this article.

Too bad there is no way to contact Ms. Sales.


8 posted on 07/18/2004 12:42:18 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Piranha

ADHD is a made up disorder...It does not exist...There is a freaking fly on my computer screen...I hate it when my microwave goes "ding, ding, ding." Someone keeps putting cup of soups in it and not taking them out...Is that a tick crawling up my leg?


9 posted on 07/18/2004 12:50:14 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint

I disagree, although i don't think people are "born" with ADD, people do develop it.

Unfortunately people often fake it and get precriptions. At my law school the people who are ranked in the top 10% aren't smarter, they don't work harder, but they all take doctor precribed medications to focus like ritilin and adderral. Is it unfair? Heavily, but there's little we can do about it.


10 posted on 07/18/2004 1:49:35 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: Piranha
Can you summarize this article?

Subsidize speed, but keep coke illegal.

11 posted on 07/18/2004 3:59:57 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: neverdem

This is just the first stage of ADD - identifying the victims. Stage two is naming the cause/oppressor - oh, I don't know, how about "modern society" created by white males. Stage three is litigating & legislating benefits (money) for the oppressed. Stage four is enacting societal changes to accomodate the victims - like requiring tv shows to have plot lines no longer than 3 minutes.


12 posted on 07/18/2004 4:07:04 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: searchandrecovery

Oh yeah, almost forgot, need a victim advocacy group - how about MAADD (Mothers Against ADD)?


13 posted on 07/18/2004 4:09:00 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: neverdem

whenever there are ''15 or 20 managers in a room, they all think they have employees with A.D.D

Why am I not surprised. The hypocrits, themselves unsuitable or disinterested in the actual technical work, declare themselves to be management material and proceed to climb over peoples backs with hob nailed boots in order to escape the routine of an office job and get a management job where they'll have power, be able to talk and spend their day going to an inordinate number of meetings.

Once they get the coveted management position, they do nothing about the underlying work environment because the same combination of disinterest and unsuitability for the original task makes them equally unsuitable to correct problems in the work environments they're now responsible for.

14 posted on 07/18/2004 4:25:16 AM PDT by fso301
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''Work isn't like school, where they have to give you more time on the tests'' if you have A.D.D., she explained. ''In the real world, if you tell during the interview, they won't hire you. And if you tell after you're hired, they can fire you.''

And so the liberal whining ensues.

Now, this broad has a couple of Master's Degrees? NEWSFLASH: Maybe 'reference librarian' isn't the best job for someone with ADD.

She needs to go start her own business, IMO.

15 posted on 07/18/2004 4:32:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Palm Beach voters: It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: neverdem
Well, some of us with the bad prefrontal glucose metabolism still make out OK.

ADD does not give you a bad attitude. THAT needs extra work.

16 posted on 07/18/2004 4:45:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: neverdem

I'm going to have to finish reading later, it's just too long for one setting.


17 posted on 07/18/2004 5:20:56 AM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: neverdem

(That's the full name of the condition, and while its initials are technically a.d.h.d., not all who have it exhibit the hyperactivity symptoms, so it is often referred to conversationally as simply A.D.D.)

Or: UC!--Utter Crap!


18 posted on 07/18/2004 5:27:19 AM PDT by TalBlack
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This is just the first stage of ADD - identifying the victims. Stage two is naming the cause/oppressor

Organized people oppress disorganized people, accurate people oppress people who fail to meet the required standards of accuracy, people who can spell oppress people who cannot spell... finally we have a cause that both the doctors and the trial lawyers can exploit.

I don't know where lack of skills ends and "disability" begins. Different people naturally have different strengths and weaknesses. If you are good in some areas you should capitalize on those things as much as possible while trying to improve areas you are not good at. I do not think it is good if you cannot spell and you distribute a memo saying, "I have a spelling disorder. I require that you accommodate my disorder by re-writing all of my work."

I have a co-worker who has turned down promotions to management because he wants to do highly technical work and not have to deal with a lot of "people problems." There is another person on the fast-track to management because he is both good with technical things and he also likes the social aspect of meeting people, etc. I am happiest when working on something technical, especially solving some complicated problem. I am much happier writing memos than I am having to meet with people

I get annoyed by people I think are too chatty, and the chatty people think I am too abrupt. The truth is they tend to be too chatty and I tend to be too abrupt. They do not have the "Chatty Disorder" and I do not have the "Abrupt Disorder." They could practice being more on-topic and timely and I could practice being more at ease with people. Actually, I have gotten better with conducting meetings and public speaking, but I know I would never do well with customer service or sales. In an area I am weak at, I know that I have to work harder and get beyond my comfort level -- I don't expect the world to accommodate me because I am not the best public speaker in the world. That means I might have to work harder than someone else whenever I have to prepare myself to lead a meeting. That is not unfair -- that is just the way it is. I think laziness is behind some of the problems people have, while I do not deny that some people have legitimate problems.

19 posted on 07/18/2004 6:01:04 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: neverdem

A good friend of mine back west has this. When he got the diagnosis and was put on medication, it turned his life around. He got married and has family, and he got a good job at Intel where he still works 10 years later. He could never get or keep a worthwhile job before that in spite of his intelligence.


20 posted on 07/18/2004 6:03:06 AM PDT by megatherium
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