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Badnarik applauds Senate rejection of GOP-led measure to ban gay marriage
Libertarian Party | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/19/2004 6:03:47 AM PDT by Undertow

Badnarik applauds Senate rejection of GOP-led measure to ban gay marriage

WASHINGTON, DC -- The Senate did the right thing on Wednesday by rejecting a proposal to ban gay marriage, says Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, because the government has no business further interfering in what should be a purely religious or civil ceremony.

"When two people say 'I do,' the government has no business saying: 'Oh no you don't!'" Badnarik says. "Politicians don't get to decide whose baby can get baptized, who can receive Holy Communion or who can get bar mitzvahed -- and they shouldn't get to decide who gets married, either."

The measure to allow a vote on a proposed constitutional amendment to define marriage, supported by President Bush and most Republicans, failed in the U.S. Senate, getting just 48 of the 60 necessary votes. The drive to amend the Constitution -- and thereby override state court rulings allowing gay marriage -- was sparked by a Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said gay couples have a right to wed.

Libertarians applaud the Senate vote because decisions about marriage are far too important to be left in the hands of the government.

"Marriage should be decided by individuals or by churches and other voluntary, civil organizations -- and certainly not by politicians posturing for votes in an election year," Badnarik says. "The institution of marriage is a building block of a civilized society, which is exactly why we have to keep the destructive hand of government away from it."

Government involvement in marriage had an ugly beginning, Badnarik noted.

"The only reason that marriage licenses even exist is that state and local governments once mandated them as a way to enforce laws against interracial marriage," he said. "In other times and places, marriage licenses were denied to interracial or other politically incorrect couples, just as they can be denied to gay couples today."

As long as any governmental group -- federal, state or local -- controls marriage, controversy will erupt, Badnarik pointed out, because politicians will always have something to gain by favoring one group over another.

The Libertarian solution: Turn decisions on marriage over to "a higher authority" -- namely, churches, other voluntary organizations and individuals.

"Just as the Catholic Church has historically disdained divorce among its congregation, so too will some religious groups refuse to bless gay unions," he said.

"Both those who support and those who condemn gay marriage will be free to practice their beliefs and persuade others to their way of thinking. Each individual will be free to choose. Isn't that what America's all about?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badnarik; fma; homosexualagenda; libertarianparty; libertarians; lp

1 posted on 07/19/2004 6:03:51 AM PDT by Undertow
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To: Undertow

Losertarians


2 posted on 07/19/2004 6:08:14 AM PDT by Drango (Stupidity is the only infinitely renewable resource)
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To: Undertow
The Senate did the right thing on Wednesday by rejecting a proposal to ban gay marriage, says Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, because the government has no business further interfering in what should be a purely religious or civil ceremony.

More blather form the vile libertine crowd. This debate is simply over whether the acutrements of marriage shall accrue to same sex couples. Nothing will prevent them from 'marrying' in some reprobate church.

3 posted on 07/19/2004 6:11:02 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: Drango

When I got married 30 years ago in Cook County, Illinois, we both were required to take a blood test, and if the results came back a certain way, we would not be allowed to be married.

No libertarian addressed their concerns over the intrusive nature of a blood test, which has to be one of the intrusive things you can ask someone to do.

But when it comes to homosexuality, the libertarians have coniption fits at the thought of governmental involvement.

In this regard, they are just trying to be PC. What a bunch of losers.


4 posted on 07/19/2004 6:13:34 AM PDT by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: Undertow

"Both those who support and those who condemn gay marriage will be free to practice their beliefs and persuade others to their way of thinking. Each individual will be free to choose. Isn't that what America's all about?"


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If they are not getting married in the govt's eyes, then whose are they? Obviously not gods eyes. So if they are getting married to have the govt give them rights, then why cant the govt decide who does and doesnt get married? The article said that it should be left up to the church's to decide who gets married, I believe that it already has been left up to a higher person, and he has already answered.


5 posted on 07/19/2004 6:13:44 AM PDT by downtoliberalism ("A coalition partner must do more than just express sympathy, a coalition partner must perform,")
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To: Undertow
Government involvement in marriage had an ugly beginning, Badnarik noted.

Yo, Einstein! What do you think "civil marriage" means?

6 posted on 07/19/2004 6:15:24 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Undertow

Religous groups ? Individuals ? Do these idiot libertarians understand that we do not live in a world of villages where people spend all their lives in one place and antisocial behavior can be controlled by fear of ostracism or disgrace ?


7 posted on 07/19/2004 6:21:10 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Undertow

-"In other times and places, marriage licenses were denied to interracial or other politically incorrect couples..."-

Yes, you shallow anarchist - for opposite-sex couples!!


8 posted on 07/19/2004 6:29:15 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Undertow

"Each individual will be free to choose. Isn't that what America's all about?"


Not with "compassionate conservatism", which favors gov't intrusion into private lives.


9 posted on 07/19/2004 7:09:32 AM PDT by Blzbba (Hillary Clinton - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Undertow

Libertarians: love gays, terrorists, and abortion.


10 posted on 07/19/2004 7:51:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: JohnnyZ

Republicans: burn black churches, anti-immigrants and hate minorities.


11 posted on 07/19/2004 12:03:46 PM PDT by xrp
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To: Undertow
"Politicians don't get to decide whose baby can get baptized, who can receive Holy Communion or who can get bar mitzvahed -- and they shouldn't get to decide who gets married, either."

That's comparing apples to oranges or, in language libertarians might understand, apples to pot. (Holy communion has nothing to do with rights of inheritance or property rights, for starters.)

12 posted on 07/19/2004 12:09:30 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: xrp

The only difference being that what I said was straight from the LP platform, while what you said are the worst kind of race-baiting lies. Typical of libertarians.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 12:47:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: xrp

The only difference being that what I said was straight from the LP platform, while what you said are the worst kind of race-baiting lies. Typical of libertarians.


14 posted on 07/19/2004 12:47:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: JohnnyZ

Then obviously, you fear giving fellow Americans the right to live their own lives. Typical of Republicans.


15 posted on 07/19/2004 12:57:12 PM PDT by xrp
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To: Undertow

But Mr. Bad that isn't libertine enough. What if I want to marry my dog? Shouldn't that count too?


(Now a more consistent position would be to stop all government recognition of marriage of WHATEVER kind. Few people want that, but it is more in tune with fundamental libertarian ideals.)


16 posted on 07/21/2004 3:22:05 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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