Posted on 07/19/2004 7:46:42 AM PDT by presidio9
I'd be willing to wager that these terrorists would scream bloody murder if a right-to-life organization did the same things to an abortion clinic. I'd also be willing to wager that they have no problem at all with fetal stem-cell research.
Once these ALF terrorists are caught, they should be great candidates for animal experiments.
It is us vs them, and there are a lot of them amongst us.
I use to be an animal rights activist. I am still vegetarian and have been for over 10 years. However as my mother always taught me, you get more with honey, then you do with vinegar. Meaning, I get more positive response by sitting and chatting with people about being vegetarian, rather then shoving it down thier throats with protests and violence. I think people like the ALF give me and people like me a bad name.
Makes me yearn for the good old days of the Coalition for the Liberation of Itenerant Tree-dwellers or even the Liberate Animals Before Imprisoning Animals movements.
I wish that people who want to ban animal testing outright would have the courage of their convictions. Say "No" to childhood vaccinations, surgery, poison treatments, HIV treatment, stroke rehab, bypass, TENS therapy, etc.
This would be for both themselves and their children, of course, since human life and animal life are of equal value.
Have you ever met an animal rights advocate(so-called) who was pro-life? Nope, me neither.
Is "vivisection" the British word for animal testing? In the US it has connotations of brutal torture, flaying open the skin of an animal while it is still living.
Just for all the PETA idiots out there, I will be feasting on a 24oz. Porterhouse tonight. I'll probably throw in some chicken wings as an appetizer.
Whether ALF gives you a bad name is determined by who you are. If you simply choose to eat only plants, then it does not. If you intend to acheive the same ends (animal testing/eating) than it does to some extent.
Quick Quiz: Do animals have rights or are rights a uniquely human concept?
What may not be known to our American readers is that the Labour Government always talks tough on terrorism, however it's record on dealing with homegrown terrorists can pretty much be described as "do nothing". This group is hardly discouraged by Tony Blair's words, is it? ALF et al have grown brave because the government has passed the buck, saying it was the responsibility of the local police forces to prevent these terrorist attacks. Result: small local towns have been lumbered with multi-million pound policing bills due to the protection that has to be offered to the labs. Then the local populace turns against the companies. It really annoys me. The government could break these lunatics with ease if they wanted to. Slap 50 year jail sentences on the leaders and it would all be over. But it's the usual Labour case of "all mouth and no action".
I would say that I wish that everyone could be vegetarian and not do testing on animals, but that wish is unrealistic. Most of these animal rights activists actually believe that they can a achieve a goal one day of a vegetarian planet, I do not believe this can or will happen. Everyone has a choice, and I respect that. I choose to be vegetarian and not support companies that do testing on animals. If someone wishes to know why I live this way, I will be more than willing to discuss it. Otherwise, I see no sense in protesting fur factories or animal testing labs, simply because it doesnt work. My way of not supporting these companies, or protesting them, is simply by not giving them my money.
I also agree with this. In the Bible it says that humans will have "dominion" over animals. Parents have dominion over thier children, but they dont eat them...
Ya know, the schools are doing a good job teaching the kids not to test on animals. My 8 yr old was looking at the shampoo bottle one day and I asked her why. "I want to make sure they don't test on animals". Why? "They came from the nature center and talked about it to us." I then had to explain to her that alot of very good things came about because of animal testing. I think she understood, and I don't think that side had even been addressed at school! Geez!!
While I agree with you that in school they should be teaching fair and balanced, you would be surprised at how much of the testing on animals is just plain not necessary and extremely frivolous. While I do believe that there are companies out there with a conscience and a sincere attempt to help humanity, there are more companies out there with a demonic attitude and I believe do this sort of thing for fun, or without sincerity.
Oh I don't know about that.
When my kids get out of line I kill em, clean em & cook them and serve them up with a tangy mustard sauce. Then after dinner I grab the wife and start making another that looks just like the first!
You don't eat your children?
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