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Plastic Wrap Barrier Causes Motorcycle Crash
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | July 16, 2004 | DARRYL ENRIQUEZ

Posted on 07/19/2004 9:01:53 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: Redbob

""The 1 a.m. ride was supposed to be a short one meant to relax the couple, who have known each other for more than a year."
Let me just guess here:
Harley with open pipes, he regularly takes these 1 AM rides;

Maybe one of his neighbors is not so amused?"

I'm a lifelong biker, but I have to admit thats my first thought on this one. It was stupid to do this.....but its also self centered to ride with pipes that wake the dead.

Personally, I keep my Intruder's baffles intact. I'd rather the police focus on my neighbor and his very loud baffle removed Harley.....(grin)

No excuse for this, and I'm not defending it. However, I do understand neighbors fed up with loud bikes at 1 AM.


141 posted on 07/20/2004 11:32:36 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: MarkL

Salt works better, and if you don't pour out too much, you can write a clever phrase or two on a lawn.....but it will be gone by the next year.

If they have a front lawn with a slight rise, its even better. Passing vehicles can see your "slogan" for the target of your wrath.

Its also very effective a week before a football game away from your home field, btw......LOL!


142 posted on 07/20/2004 11:50:33 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Rebelbase
I'll have to remember that one next time.

A creative application of Roundup could prove interesting as well.

(Not that I know this from experience of course)

; )

143 posted on 07/20/2004 12:00:50 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Badeye

I live in a gated community. I canvased all my neighbors between me and the front gate and asked if the noise from my bike was in anyway disturbing or bothersome (exact words) to them as I also do the midnight ride routine. Half of them had no idea what I was talking about the other half had no problem and gave me the usual "My cousin owned a harley and..." stories.

When my riding partners come to visit and leave afterdark, they know to back their bikes into the street and have their exhaust aiming up or down the street and not in the driveway aiming at my neighbors as they start em up. I have never had a complaint and have a super quiet neighborhood with a few state troopers and a sheriff in the community.

A little courtesy goes a long long way. Unless of course I scared em all into submission with my handsome looks!!

<|:-)~~

PS even the guys with Thunderheaders can tone down their escape, at least till they get outside the gate and past the troopers house.


144 posted on 07/20/2004 12:02:16 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: yankeedame
What are the specifics of this plastic wrap

This stuff is ubiquitous. You'll find it in most warehouses. It's used to wrap loaded pallets to insure stability during shipping

145 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:08 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Arthalion; Melas; Modernman
Good Evening All-

Arthalion, now that's how you relate a story to win friends and influence people!

The cursory (and somewhat adversarial) explanation originally given in Post# 71 is dramatically different from this reasoned, detailed, and vindicating post.

It sounds like you have suffered at the hands of some real lowlifes. The defensive steps you've taken should pretty much ensure an intelligent, law-abiding person would not be injured. Accept my apologies as your situation hardly compares to a bunch of criminals stretching cellophane across a public roadway.

Regards,

~ Blue Jays ~

p.s. Pictures of your arrangement would be very cool attached to this discussion thread. Your "hinged steel plates" solution sounds like it could even thwart car thieves in a suburban environment...

146 posted on 07/20/2004 4:47:02 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: -YYZ-
But that's neither here nor there. My main point was that making a racket with extremely loud or open pipes doesn't increase performance noticeable, but it does piss a lot of people off. Moderately loud pipes and a judicious use of the loud handle may be OK if a lot of your riding is done is essentially unpopulated areas.

I guess I piss a lot of people off then. I'm glad that you like your motorcycle to be quiet, I don't, and that's that.

147 posted on 07/20/2004 5:14:49 PM PDT by Melas
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To: cinFLA
Number One reason people hate harley riders.

Really? Most people fawn all over my bike and love to talk to me about it. The only 'hate' came from a black guy on a Japanese bike. I waved at him and he gave me one of those 'dis' looks. In fact, in my experience, the crotch rocket riders are more elitist than the hog riders. Don't get me started on the 'fart mufflers' the 'tuners' put on their Japanese cars, talk about annoying!!

148 posted on 07/20/2004 5:20:15 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: Looking4Truth

No more annoying to most people than very loud pipes on a cruiser. You're part of the problem, by the sound of it, so you have no right to complain about other people's annoying noise makers. Actually, you have a lot in common with those guys - putting a loud exhaust on an underpowered vehicle that produce no significant gain in power.


149 posted on 07/20/2004 5:55:10 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Melas

So it's whatever pleases you, and screw everyone else, right? When the cops pull you over and hassle you looking for equipment violations, you'll only have to look in the mirror to see who's fault it is.


150 posted on 07/20/2004 5:58:14 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-
So it's whatever pleases you, and screw everyone else, right? When the cops pull you over and hassle you looking for equipment violations, you'll only have to look in the mirror to see who's fault it is.

This is settled easily. You're a Canadian, and I'm a Texan. You just wouldn't understand. No Texas cop is going to hassle a biker over loud pipes (well maybe the sandle wearing cops in Austin). This isn't liberal New York, and it's not Canada. Freedom still reigns here.

151 posted on 07/20/2004 6:01:47 PM PDT by Melas
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To: -YYZ-
Actually, you have a lot in common with those guys - putting a loud exhaust on an underpowered vehicle that produce no significant gain in power. Actually you can get a gain in power as long as you open up the airflow and re-jet the carb(s). My 1340 is far from underpowered and it sound a hell of a lot better than those fart mufflers on those cars. BTW, I bought the bike with those aftermarket pipes on them. If I'd have bought one brand-new I would have most likely left the stock ones in place. Also, see my post 22. I use consideration when necessary for pete's sake.
152 posted on 07/20/2004 6:29:30 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: Melas

Everything I said in post #139 was incorrect.

I stand corrected and bow my head in shame.

Chain driven counter balancers as you said is correct.


(I was very vigorously educated a few hours ago)


153 posted on 07/20/2004 6:48:47 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: -YYZ-
...When the cops pull you over and hassle you looking for equipment violations, you'll only have to look in the mirror to see who's fault it is.

Wow, it must suck to live where you live.

154 posted on 07/20/2004 6:55:03 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Melas

I thought courtesy and consideration for others (and not just those in your neighbourhood) was also a Texan trait. My mistake.

I like a nice sounding exhaust, which unfortunately also means loud, as much as anyone. But I know it annoys the heck out of me when my neighbour starts up his loud Harley at 5:30 am and idles it in his driveway for 10 minutes, nevmind going WOT as soon as he gets moving. So why would I subject others to the same annoyance?


155 posted on 07/20/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: JoeSixPack1

I frequent lots of motorcycling message boards. I hear stories about that kind of harassment from the cops from all over North America.


156 posted on 07/20/2004 6:57:04 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Looking4Truth

When I bought my current bike from its previous owner, I could have taken it with the 2 Brothers slip-ons that he had installed. The sound they produced was sweet, but loud. I requested that he replace the stock mufflers before I took possesion, he sold them to someone on the internet.

Does your consideration extend beyond your neighbourhood? But don't get me wrong, not all aftermarket pipes are obnoxiously loud, and as I said if the loud handle is used judiciously they can be alright. If I've mistakenly lumped you in with the straight-pipe, WOT from every stop crowd, I apologize.


157 posted on 07/20/2004 7:01:03 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: JoeSixPack1
Hmmm, that's weird. I was never flagged to your original message. That's the first time this has happened.

You can actually hear the chains on the 88B. What's worse, there is for lack of a better term, a laggy feeling to the 88B compared to the 88. It's led to a lot of veteran bikers tearing up perfectly good carburators thinking it's a jetting problem.

158 posted on 07/20/2004 7:02:53 PM PDT by Melas
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To: -YYZ-
I didn't pick up on you being Canadian early enough. I didn't mean my post to be a slam, but an observation.

For good or for bad, Americans are more concerned with individual liberty, and less concerned with society at large than Canadians.

Now this goes double for Texas, where you can still find horses in a city the size of Dallas, and if the neighbors don't like the smell, they can move. Honestly, if the Texas legislature would attempt half the nanny-state regulations that California or New York have (let alone Canada), the legislators would have to drive further than New Mexico to hide this time.

159 posted on 07/20/2004 7:13:38 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Looking4Truth
Really? Most people fawn all over my bike and love to talk to me about it. The only 'hate' came from a black guy on a Japanese bike. I waved at him and he gave me one of those 'dis' looks. In fact, in my experience, the crotch rocket riders are more elitist than the hog riders. Don't get me started on the 'fart mufflers' the 'tuners' put on their Japanese cars, talk about annoying!!

I have a problem with that also. They sound awful. I love to hear a nice sounding engine but those tuners! OTOH, a harley backfiring into open pipes as it gears down for the stop sign near my house is also bad.

I was visiting the 'Old Town' section of town one weekend and the noise from the harleys was actually painful.

160 posted on 07/20/2004 7:15:35 PM PDT by cinFLA
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