[cinFLA]

Really? Most people fawn all over my bike and love to talk to me about it. The only 'hate' came from a black guy on a Japanese bike. I waved at him and he gave me one of those 'dis' looks. In fact, in my experience, the crotch rocket riders are more elitist than the hog riders. Don't get me started on the 'fart mufflers' the 'tuners' put on their Japanese cars, talk about annoying!!

I have a problem with that also. They sound awful. I love to hear a nice sounding engine but those tuners! OTOH, a harley backfiring into open pipes as it gears down for the stop sign near my house is also bad.

I was visiting the 'Old Town' section of town one weekend and the noise from the harleys was actually painful.

[-YYZ-]

"I was visiting the 'Old Town' section of town one weekend and the noise from the harleys was actually painful."

When I've gone down to the Friday the 13th gathering (which happens, strangely enough, every Friday the 13th) in Port Dover, Ontario, I've sometimes ended up leaving my earplugs in while walking around town. We can debate loud pipes, but completely unmuffled straight pipes just sound like crap IMO, and are way too loud. Children covering their ears when they go by loud.

[Not A Snowbird]

OTOH, a harley backfiring into open pipes as it gears down for the stop sign near my house is also bad.

I followed one of those for several miles last Saturday on a group ride. Horrible sound, every time she let off the throttle. Other than that, it was a great ride... 48 chicks on a 100+ mile ride around Mt. Rainier... no boys allowed!