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Plastic Wrap Barrier Causes Motorcycle Crash
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | July 16, 2004 | DARRYL ENRIQUEZ

Posted on 07/19/2004 9:01:53 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: Axenolith

bwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha...


201 posted on 08/03/2004 7:05:19 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Liberals - The Other White Meat.)
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To: BluegrassScholar
The 1 a.m. ride was supposed to be a short one meant to relax the couple,

1 a.m.?????

Er, I would be mighty angry if some fool and his old lady came roaring by on their motorcycle at 1 a.m. I probably wouldn't go to the extent of putting plastic wrap across the road, but still......

202 posted on 08/03/2004 7:09:14 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

They didn't ask and sure don't need your permission.


203 posted on 08/03/2004 7:44:05 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1

It's a case of being neighborly and considerate of others. I've gone so far as to not even call out loudly for the cat (she's usually hiding on our property somewhere) after 10 p.m., just to be considerate of others. I'm not advocating the plastic wrap scenario, but it's lack of self-policing and lack of consideration for others that causes unnecessary and burdensome laws and regulations.


204 posted on 08/03/2004 7:49:18 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Thanks for the insight, Evita.


205 posted on 08/03/2004 7:57:49 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1

Think nothing of it, Bubba.


206 posted on 08/03/2004 7:59:54 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

See my post #144 on this thread.

Evita.


207 posted on 08/03/2004 8:10:34 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1

Well then what in the hell were you arguing with me for?



Bubba.


208 posted on 08/03/2004 8:13:17 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
Er, I would be mighty angry if some fool and his old lady came roaring by on their motorcycle at 1 a.m.

Probably because this statement hit me the wrong way. And still does. But I'll get over it.

Evita <|:-)~~

209 posted on 08/03/2004 8:20:10 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

PS - I'm going out for a ride right now, is it ok?


210 posted on 08/03/2004 8:26:04 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Probably because this statement hit me the wrong way. And still does. But I'll get over it.

Well, it sounds like you've done your best to "check in" with your neighbors and ensure that none of them had a problem with you recreational activities. Sounds to me like you would be VERY ANGRY with the above-mentioned fool and his old lady for giving guys like you a bad name. Pretty polite and considerate for a

Bubba.

211 posted on 08/03/2004 8:27:26 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
PS - I'm going out for a ride right now, is it ok?

As long as you're not some fool roaring by my house when my a55 is asleep trying to rest up for my workday.

212 posted on 08/03/2004 8:34:07 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Actually, have a good day.

I'm going out to terrorize the neighborhood now. Alway love to start my day with a weak argument. Gets half the brain going.

Evita. :)


213 posted on 08/03/2004 8:46:18 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

214 posted on 08/03/2004 8:49:38 AM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
So, one day I built my snowman around a fire hydrant, completely hiding it...

That reminds me of a friend who owns a machine shop. He lives in the country and hooligans keep smashing his mailbox. He bought a cheap sheet metal mailbox and had his guys weld up a plate steel "box within a box". A few nights later he hears a loud howl of pain from the general direction of his mailbox and the next morning there was a shattered baseball bat on the ground.
215 posted on 08/03/2004 8:52:03 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: Melas

I went from a 1980 KZ650 to a 1985 Sportster (last of the ironheads) and it was a major shocker. It took me 6 months to finally have faith that the thing wasn't going to come apart in a million pieces at any moment. All those clicks clunks and clanks coming from that motor...

I ended up puting about 60,000 miles on that thing before I sold it. The only time it broke down was when a battery terminal broke.


216 posted on 08/03/2004 9:40:54 AM PDT by Critter (...an online gathering place for sissy boy, girlie men, nanny staters, and jackboot lovers.)
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To: Critter; BluegrassScholar; Chad Fairbanks; TommyDale; gitmo; martin_fierro; Looking4Truth; ...
The punks were sentenced today, thought you all would like to know...
217 posted on 10/12/2004 10:07:10 AM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: null and void

What was the sentence?


218 posted on 10/12/2004 10:07:49 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: martin_fierro

Martin, why does your hood ornament have a motorcylcist attached to a Reese's peanut butter cup?


219 posted on 10/12/2004 10:09:08 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Shryke
Martin, why does your hood ornament have a motorcylcist attached to a Reese's peanut butter cup?

Postmodern artistic interpretation.

And it's a Mallo Cup™, silly.


220 posted on 10/12/2004 10:29:25 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Want some wood?)
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To: martin_fierro

Ah. What in Jehova's name is a Mallo cup? Milk beef tallow? UG!


221 posted on 10/12/2004 10:30:58 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: BluegrassScholar

This is sadistic.


222 posted on 10/12/2004 10:33:24 AM PDT by diamond6
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To: SandyInSeattle

No, that's a question. This is a sentence.


223 posted on 10/12/2004 10:34:16 AM PDT by rabidralph (Take responsibility for your life. Vote Republican)
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To: rabidralph
No, that's a question. This is a sentence.

You got me! I'm too tired today to think up a quick, witty comeback. :-)

224 posted on 10/12/2004 10:35:52 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: BluegrassScholar
Some idiot kids are playing with other people's lives. I say they should be sent to Siberia to crack ice for about 10 years. Most kids these days have no sense of respect for anyone and they do not fear authority. This is the fault of parents.

I remember back in the day when a teacher can still kick your a$$. Dad had no problem with that if I deserved it.

Given the current social climate, if these kids are caught I am sure the parent will file a suite against the town, school and state for not giving the kids enough entertainment or community amusement.
225 posted on 10/12/2004 10:47:09 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Chad Fairbanks

As kids some friends and I once placed garbage cans on either side of an alley and then strung them together with a single strand of fishing line. Then we got the local police to chase us down the alley (there was a curfew in town and we did this late at night). We were fortunate to have some cops who remembered what it was like to be kids - they took us to our parents rathern than the pokey. :-)


226 posted on 10/12/2004 10:56:34 AM PDT by Frapster (rope-a-dope)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

lol - check out 224


227 posted on 10/12/2004 10:59:10 AM PDT by Frapster (rope-a-dope)
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To: Frapster

ROTFL...


228 posted on 10/12/2004 10:59:41 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I only heard it on the radio, and didn't realize it was them until half way through the story. IIRC, (and I probably don't) there was a little jail time (days) and community service (weeks).

They weren't trying to hurt anyone, but to scare the driver of a car. (Or so they said).

Lemme dig.


229 posted on 10/12/2004 2:10:00 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Here's what I've got so far...

Update on plastic wrap trap. BUSTED!!!!
by mfell2112*nospam*@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 7, 2004 at 04:46 AM

4 in Town of Waukesha may be charged with being delinquent, causing
crash
By JACQUELINE SEIBEL, DAVID DOEGE and REID J. EPSTEIN
jseibel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Posted: Aug. 4, 2004
Waukesha - Four Town of Waukesha teenage boys have admitted they
stretched kitchen-variety plastic wrap across a road, causing a
motorcyclist and his passenger to crash, Waukesha County District
Attorney Paul Bucher said Wednesday.

"They've been very cooperative, very contrite," Bucher said. "It's
what we thought might have happened: a group of kids trying to pull a
stupid prank that they didn't give a lot of thought to."

The boys, three are 16 and one is 14, each could be accused in
juvenile court of being delinquent in petitions similar to what would
involve felony counts of second-degree reckless endangerment if they
were adults.

The review and charging process for juveniles typically takes 30 to 40
days, "but we plan to expedite that," Bucher said. "We're going to do
what we can to try and get it into court next week," he added.

The 14-year-old is too young to be waived into adult court, and while
it is possible for 16-year-olds, "I don't think the criteria that a
judge has to consider are there (in this instance)," Bucher said.

"At least I don't think so at this point knowing what I know now," he
added.

The Waukesha County Sheriff's Department received more than 50 tips
regarding the July 13 accident, said sheriff's Detective Steve
Pederson.

"We had more than one tip that pointed to two of the individuals,"
said Pederson, and two of the boys had been interviewed by detectives
but were not arrested.

Two days after that interview, Bucher informed the Sheriff's
Department that attorneys for the four teens, including the two
previously interviewed, had contacted his office. Bucher said the
boys' parents were cooperative.

"We had some leads, but we weren't near where we are now after getting
their help," Bucher said.

Sheriff Dan Trawicki predicted after the incident that it would turn
out to be a prank that had gone wrong involving local residents.

The incident occurred on Guthrie Road, south of Highway I, in the Town
of Waukesha.

Daniel Buckel, 22, of the Town of Waukesha has said he didn't see the
plastic wrap until it was 10 feet in front of him. It was too late to
stop, and there was no way to avoid the tightly wound clear wrap
stretched between two traffic posts.

Authorities and Buckel have described the circumstances. It was foggy
at 1 a.m. Buckel and his girlfriend, Theresa Brzykcy, 19, of
Brookfield were out for a relaxing ride. Because of the poor
visibility, Buckel recalls traveling less than 40 mph when he hit the
wall of plastic wrap.

The 2002 Honda motorcycle slid across the pavement, and Buckel and
Brzykcy landed on a nearby driveway. Buckel broke a finger and needed
15 stitches to close a gash above his eye.

Brzykcy hit the pavement with her head and lost consciousness for a
short time but was not seriously injured.

Local attorney Michael Hupy, who has represented many motorcyclists,
offered ••••,000 reward to any person who provided information that
led to a conviction. He said Wednesday that Trawicki will determine
who among the more than 50 tipsters will get the money.

Waukesha County CrimeStoppers also added up to $1,000 to the reward
amount.

Buckel has hired Hupy to represent him.

"I'm glad they turned themselves in," Hupy said of the boys, "but the
main thing I wanted to do when I offered this reward was to make sure
this doesn't happen to another biker."

Hupy said he does not know the boys' identities but that the four had
hired separate attorneys.

Hupy promised to take no fee from Buckel, and to donate an amount
equal to his fee to a motorcycle safety group.

Buckel said late Wednesday he's relieved that authorities have
identified the boys said to be responsible because it means he no
longer has to worry.

"It's less stressful not sitting around waiting any more, wondering if
I should raise the reward, wondering what else I can do. It's a
relief," Buckel said.

Buckel, who lives with his parents and works as a bartender and
selling motorcycles, said the crash caused him to miss a combined two
weeks of work. He still suffers bad headaches and said he can't afford
plastic surgery needed to repair scars above his eyes and nose and on
his chin.

"They're going to see that it's going to cost these kids severely," he
said. "That's what happens for not thinking before you do act. Any
prank - you've got to think before you do it if it's going to hurt
someone. I'm just glad to be alive at this point."
Regards
Michael H. Fell
230 posted on 10/12/2004 2:17:12 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: SandyInSeattle

District Attorney Paul Bucher says he'll seek confinement for the teens who stretched plastic wrap across a country road - a barrier that sent a motorcyclist and his rider to the pavement with minor injuries.

Now would be a good time for cyclist Daniel Buckel of the Town of Waukesha to step forward, speak up and show some mercy - the kind shown him when, as a 16-year-old, he was driving a car involved in an accident that killed a motorcyclist. Police said Buckel failed to yield in the accident, but he was not charged.

A combination of community supervision, volunteer service and restitution - or at worst, even a short stint in locked detention at the Juvenile Center - makes eminently more sense for these boys than a trip to Ethan Allen School near Wales.

As I've said before, it was a really stupid stunt these kids pulled. I'm pretty sure they know that now.


231 posted on 10/12/2004 2:35:00 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: yankeedame
Could also have come from work. Many different types of pallet wrapping machines use large rolls of wrap that would work as described.

Who ever is responsible should be jailed if proven.

This is not a prank, it is a crime.

232 posted on 10/12/2004 2:42:38 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: null and void

That wraps it up, all right.


233 posted on 10/12/2004 3:00:46 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: TommyDale

We used to put a scarecrow sitting in a chair at the top of a hill... oh the memories..


234 posted on 10/12/2004 3:04:52 PM PDT by todd1
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To: taxed2death

alright #1 you guys are all talking about how this is dangerous and it hurt someone. Well, dont u think that throwing an explosive device out of your window into a persons driveway next to a GLASS window, is dangerous. ESPECIALLY when you say they had a babby in the house. What if he was holding the baby, you throw the explosive by the window, it blows out, and the glass hurts the baby. maybe YOU deserve the @$$ kicking.
#2- no such thing as 1/4 stick. If youre refering to an M-80. then it is soooooooo much less powerfull than a 1/4 stick of DYNAMITE. It is made with flash powder, not nitro glycerine. Also, you can not buy these in the U.S., Also, you can not bring them into the country, IT IS ILLEGAL. and also, you can not make them, IT IS ILLEGAL. so get your facts straight and dont talk about dangerous when you do the same thing and also do very illegal things as well.

"I had to teach this moron that a little common sense can go a long way." aw man dude, enough said. You describe the opposite of what you do with your own sentence.

I just hope that all of you learn from this most "responsible" persons mistakes. I also hope that you do not all hate me for chewing this guy out. I appologize if this has offended you in any way. I am just making a point because i know the people that did this and THEY ARE NOT BAD KIDS. I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY ARE VERY NICE. I DO ADMIT THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS STUPID AND THEY DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED BUT THE PUNISHMENT THAT THEY GOT WAS WAYYYYYYYY TOO HARSH FOR WHAT THEY DID AND HOW MINOR THE INJURIES WERE. THEY NEEDED TO BE TOUGHT A LESSON BUT NOT SUCH A DRASTIC CRUEL PUNISHMENT!!! thank you for reading this, i will stop talking now.


235 posted on 10/12/2004 7:07:21 PM PDT by tearitup02
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To: null and void

Thanks for the update ping. I hope that they get punished properly for doing such a stupid and dangerous thing. I wonder what happened to those American kids in Germany who threw chunks of concrete onto the Autobahn and killed a woman? I think I'll do a little search and find out.


236 posted on 10/13/2004 8:43:18 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: tearitup02

OK. Given what could have happened, I think the punishment was about right, except for the lifetime gun ownership ban.

A few days in jail and 60 hrs community service isn't all that harsh.

What would you think would be appropriate?


237 posted on 10/13/2004 9:50:47 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: Looking4Truth

I pinged you to the thread with the sentence.


238 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:31 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: tearitup02

Welcome to FR, BTW...


239 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:39 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror to an elementary school near you! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: TommyDale
I read this earlier, and I was immediately transported back to my childhood, when a neighbor strung barbed wire across our bike path.

Hey, all we did was to roll hedgeballs across the road.
240 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:41 PM PDT by aruanan
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