"ROBERT REICH'S RHETORICAL RUBBISH" (he foresees war between "science" and people of "Scripture")

Virtuosity ^ | July 20, 04 | David Virtue

[hocndoc]

When will the Reich's and Ronstants' be denounced as the haters that they are?

Just because someone is born in the South, to Baptist parents and finds herself opposed to the destruction of human life and dignity doesn't mean she's Republican. Of course, she could vote for candidates in favor of abortion, same sex marriage, removal of every Christian and Jewish symbol from the public square, and enforced tax-payer funding of equal food, housing, clothing and medical care - - -

Well, maybe it's not because she believes in an afterlife .....

[koolaidsmile]

"He Blinded me with SCIENCE"

[exit82]

One ground rule--no cheating by stuffing classified document in your pants for padding! :)

[kcvl]

Clare Dalton (Reich's wife), a professor of law at Northeastern University, was an undergraduate at Oxford when she met Robert Reich in 1968. For more than 20 years, the couple has lived in Cambridge, where they raised their sons, Sam and Adam.

Clare earned an LL.M. from Harvard Law School in 1973 and taught there from 1981 until 1988, when Harvard denied her tenure and she joined Northeastern’s faculty. At the urging of her students, Dalton founded the law school’s domestic violence clinical program in 1990. When Harvard settled the gender discrimination lawsuit she brought against its Law School in 1993, she brought the settlement money to Northeastern and the Domestic Violence Institute was born.

[Clintonfatigued]

It's too bad that Reich feels the need to write such stuff. I've seen him in TV debates in the past, and he struck me as a nice guy who was wrong on the issues. He and Rush Limbaugh get along well. Obviously he has hang-ups about people of faith. Perhaps he should consider socializing with them on occasion.

[aruanan]

"ROBERT REICH'S RHETORICAL RUBBISH" (he foresees war between "science" and people of "Scripture")

This guy's ignorant of history. I have a limited, numbered edition of a book by Andrew Dickson White called "A history of the warfare of science with theology in Christendom," published in August 15, 1895, almost 110 year ago. But then, Andrew Dickson White was as ignorant as Reich. The warfare wasn't between science and theology but between naturalism and theology.

[koolaidsmile]

"...their sons, Sam and Adam"

Nice biblical names for athiest children eh? I would've guessed "Darwin" and "Mengele".

Doesn't she look alot like Miss Jane Hathaway from the "Beverly HillBillies"? I guess all Libs look alike to me.

[kcvl]

LOL!

[Poodlebrain]

Robert Reich is absolutely correct about a war between science and religion as it is happening now. He is wrong about the religion as it will not be Christianity vs. science; the war is between Islam and science. And the war exists because followers of Islam are attempting to impose their beliefs on the political systems of their people and deny them the use of free-will.

Christianity and science have been able to reach accords on matters of controversy involving science equally contentious as those currently existing. Knowledge is neither inherently good or evil, it is the decisions people make exercising free-will with respect to such knowledge that is the concern of Christians. Attempting to influence how others exercise their free-will has always been the principal focus of religion; it has only crossed into the realm of politics with the advent of democratic forms of government.

[dennisw]

I got her CV pretty much right. Can you imagine being married to such a loon?

[churchillbuff]

bump

[churchillbuff]

"It's too bad that Reich feels the need to write such stuff. I've seen him in TV debates in the past, and he struck me as a nice guy who was wrong on the issues. He and Rush Limbaugh get along well."

This was my reaction. There seems to be a disconnect between his friendly - if misguided - personna on TV or radio, and the vitriol against Christians and others of faith, in the quoted article.

[RightWingAtheist]

What Reich fails to understand is that the true enemies of modernity in the West are not to be found in the pews of churches or other places of worship, but in the streets outside WTO and G7 conferences demonstrating against capitalism and technology, and in the humanities departments of most universities. These are the people most hostile to science, and most unthinking in their actions, and worse yet, are given legitimacy by our institutions of media and learning.

[Imagine]

Reich is a pompus ass. Always was, always will be.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

CW II ping

[Taliesan]

Terrorism is a tactic, not a belief.

That's actually true, and a good point. The rest is typical liberalism.

[Noumenon]

"The true battle will be between modern civilization and anti-modernists; between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority; between those who give priority to life in this world and those who believe that human life is mere preparation for an existence beyond life; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma.

Typical liberal bait and switch BS. And the Left has no respect whatsoever for individual rights. License yes, liberty, no. The real struggle is, and always has been the struggle between those who believe that they have the right to dictate the terms of existence to everyone else and those of us who believe that no such right exists; between those who believe in the rule of men, whim and the mob and those of us who believe in the rule of law; between those who believe in the the state as a granter of privileges and those of us who understand that the concept ofindividual rights is the conerstone of human freedom and dignity.

And finally, it is a struggle between those who seek dominion over every sphere of human thought and endeavor - and DEMAND that we applaud them for it - and those of us who will fight to their deaths to ensure that it never, never happens again.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Meanwhile Reich presumably (as a good liberal) cherishes the cultures of the various "indigenous pipples" of the world and would denounce the teaching of Darwinism to Eskimos or Australian aborigines as "cultural genocide."

Ever notice how the "indigenous"-ites and the advocates of European enlightenment ideology, while theoretically at odds, never seem to get mad at each other? They just take turns beating up on the Southern Baptists but one seems to disappear from the picture whenever the other shows up to bait the "Bible-bangers" (kinda like the way the old time heels of professional wrestling never feuded with each other, in spite of the fact that each one claimed to be "the greatest wrestler of all time"). Oh well. Until religious people stop fighting one enemy at a time and start calling attention to this quasi-alliance they will continue to get beaten up. Personally, I'd love to see Fundamentalists force a confrontation between the two wings of the Left. But will they?

And btw, Dr. Reich, the idea that the world is a random meaningless coincidence does not mean that we "should" concentrate on "this world" as opposed to the next. "Random and meaningless" means precisely that. Though the rabid ideological crusades by these self-proclaimed believers in "absolute meaninglessness" seems to cast some doubt on just how strongly they hold that belief. And this number includes not only people on the Left, but people here on FR who seem to think that The Meaningless That Created The World has personally authorized them to do battle with the forces of darkness. After all, it's not like truth or reality carries any moral force or obligation in a world that is merely a gigantic accident.

[DCPatriot]

"The true battle will be between modern civilization and anti-modernists; between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority;

"...between those who give priority to life in this world and those who believe that human life is mere preparation for an existence beyond life; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma."

IOW, World War III...starring the United States of American vs. Radical Islam.

[Palmetto]

Gentlemen, it has been my experience that a large number - if not indeed a majority - of engineers are Christian.

-Myself, Engineer since '97 and Christian since '83.