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Tour Director Says Fans Spat At Armstrong
Reuters ^ | July 21, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 07/21/2004 1:04:05 PM PDT by BluegrassScholar

L'ALPE D'HUEZ, France (Reuters) - Tour de France director Jean-Marie Leblanc has admitted he had seen fans spit at five-times champion Lance Armstrong during the 15.5-km time trial to L'Alpe d'Huez.

Leblanc also said the swarming crowds on the twisting climb on Wednesday had frightened him as riders, including Armstrong, were forced to weave through excited fans who jumped out on to the road.

"I was scared too and I felt relieved when we reached the section with barriers," Leblanc told Reuters after stage winner Armstrong described the stage as a "bad idea" and hit out at some German fans.

"Until this morning, everybody thought this time trial was a good idea and now we realised it was not so.

"There were lots of aggressive fans surrounding the riders and I even saw two idiots spit at Lance Armstrong."

"Unfortunately I doubt you can put barriers on the 14 kilometres of the climb," he added.

Armstrong, who stormed to victory nearly a minute ahead of his closest challenger Jan Ullrich and now looks set for a record sixth Tour win, urged organisers to think seriously about holding another time trial at the ski resort.

"I don't know if that's such a good thing for the Tour de France. I don't think it's safe. I think organisers should watch out," said the American.


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France is really starting to p*ss me off.
1 posted on 07/21/2004 1:04:07 PM PDT by BluegrassScholar
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To: BluegrassScholar

The spitters could be from anywhere in Europe. I saw this today and was amazed how close the crowds were.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 1:08:08 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: dennisw

Damn those Europeans are sophisticated.


3 posted on 07/21/2004 1:09:29 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: BluegrassScholar

The French should know better then to spit on a liberal American opposed to the Iraq War.


4 posted on 07/21/2004 1:10:20 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: BluegrassScholar

It was most likely German's doing the spitting. If your country was run by socialists and has 12% unemployment and your guy was getting his @ss kicked by an American, you'd be pissed, too.


5 posted on 07/21/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: dennisw

Okay...EUROPE is really starting to p*** me off!


6 posted on 07/21/2004 1:11:54 PM PDT by rhc2000
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To: BluegrassScholar
France has descended to a 3rd world country. Fan response at the Tour is just a prelude to what we can expect at Athens. I pray for all of our athletes safety and those of our true friends.
7 posted on 07/21/2004 1:12:36 PM PDT by afnamvet (Where facts are few, experts are many...Donald R. Gannon)
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To: TelephoneMan
I mean why not, they have tried sabotage, rule changes, and flat out hostility towards him

Let's not forget the constant (all hours of the day & night) drug testing. That's why he left France & brought a place in Spain.

9 posted on 07/21/2004 1:15:35 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TelephoneMan

I am still suspecting that a fan is going to take Lance out by some means such as a stick in the spokes.


10 posted on 07/21/2004 1:15:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: BluegrassScholar
Reply by winning !
11 posted on 07/21/2004 1:16:22 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Puppage

Getting a place is Spain didn't get him out of drug testing.


12 posted on 07/21/2004 1:16:40 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: BluegrassScholar

Some of the graffiti on the road was hostile as well, e.g. "Lance Sucks," "EPO Lance." But one bit was great. It said "Cut their balls off Lance." Indeed.


13 posted on 07/21/2004 1:16:46 PM PDT by drew (fear of a liberal planet)
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To: BluegrassScholar

The French fan are just lovely. They did the same thing to one of the Williams sisters as well. They hate winners, and American winners most of all.


14 posted on 07/21/2004 1:17:33 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: BluegrassScholar
France and John Kerry...........

Two class acts!

15 posted on 07/21/2004 1:17:38 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Getting a place is Spain didn't get him out of drug testing

Of course not, but it did pretty much stop the 3am drug testing, though.

16 posted on 07/21/2004 1:18:19 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: pete anderson

...but I thought the French love Americans, they just hate our gov't? :>


17 posted on 07/21/2004 1:18:42 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: johniegrad
Damn those Europeans are sophisticated.

We're supposed to emulate them, right?

18 posted on 07/21/2004 1:19:34 PM PDT by The_Victor
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To: dennisw

The spitters could be from anywhere in Europe. I saw this today and was amazed how close the crowds were.

Those spitters could've been any radical fringe group goons using Mr.Lance Americana as their scape goat regardless of his political affiliation. Besides most people in general get tired of the same person/team winning year after year. The masses over the course of mankind always go for and relate better towards the under dog. Lance hasn't been an underdog in a long time.


19 posted on 07/21/2004 1:21:11 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: BluegrassScholar

And Americans were supposed to carry the label of "ugly".


20 posted on 07/21/2004 1:21:39 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: afnamvet

were they spitting or trying to whisle through their toofless grins?


21 posted on 07/21/2004 1:22:21 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece-leaks to China,shills for France,what's in that guy's undapants?)
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To: BluegrassScholar
Armstrong, who stormed to victory nearly a minute ahead of his closest challenger Jan Ullrich...

OLN said Armstrong beat Ullrich by 61 seconds. Must be those 'metric minutes.'

22 posted on 07/21/2004 1:24:30 PM PDT by Petronski (Nobody "inadvertently" takes sensitive docs in their pants.)
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To: drew
But one bit was great. It said "Cut their balls off Lance." Indeed.....


Yeah!!! I saw that one! Big graffiti in chalk that the overhead cameras opted to show.
23 posted on 07/21/2004 1:25:21 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: BluegrassScholar

When Armstrong wins, he should take the opportunity to tell the world he was spat upon by the Frogs and that he will not be returning, ever.


24 posted on 07/21/2004 1:26:14 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: BluegrassScholar

My wife just spent 3 weeks in France with the In-Laws (two strikes, I didn't go), and she found 99.9% of Frenchmen rude. There was one nice lady with a Chai necklace....


25 posted on 07/21/2004 1:27:52 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: Petronski

1 001 ARMSTRONG Lance USA USP in 39' 41"
2 011 ULLRICH Jan GER TMO at 01' 01"


26 posted on 07/21/2004 1:27:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Nobody "inadvertently" takes sensitive docs in their pants.)
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To: BluegrassScholar

There was an article on velonews.com about this and Lance had some critical words for German fans. Of course they could have been French and he refrained from mentioning them because the rest of the race is in France. Either way the race up the mountain will be no more. Race directors watched the mess and concluded that it was a mistake and dangerous. They had three of 15.5km with barricades. They claim that with 21 switchbacks it is impossible to barricade the entire course.


27 posted on 07/21/2004 1:28:09 PM PDT by Investment Biker
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To: BluegrassScholar
Every win for America is a win for Bush... the dems have managed to make every loss to America a win for Kerry..

I suspect liberals are rooting against Armstrong even though he appears to be a lib.... the same will be true for the Olympics.... Every Gold will be a Gold for Bush... Every deep-loss will be a win for Kerry.

I love liberal logic....so predictable.

28 posted on 07/21/2004 1:28:18 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: CatoRenasci

He has said he intends to compete next year.


29 posted on 07/21/2004 1:28:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Nobody "inadvertently" takes sensitive docs in their pants.)
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To: All

30 posted on 07/21/2004 1:29:39 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: BrooklynGOP

Hmmm the Lance hecklers are all wearing Orange clothing, any significance to that?


31 posted on 07/21/2004 1:33:04 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: BrooklynGOP

Orange fans would be Spanish. Armstrong lives in the Spanish mountains near France. It is for training I understand.


32 posted on 07/21/2004 1:33:16 PM PDT by Investment Biker
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To: BrooklynGOP

Lance oughta unclip his bike pump and whack the dogsh*t out of those SOB's in orange.

He may be a lefty, but he's our lefty. WE don't even have the right to spit on our own lefties!


33 posted on 07/21/2004 1:34:09 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: All
More (via LGF)
34 posted on 07/21/2004 1:35:14 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Frank_Discussion
He may be a lefty, but he's our lefty.

Hmm... Maybe all those guys are euro Freepers freeping Lance? :P

35 posted on 07/21/2004 1:36:18 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Frank_Discussion

"Lance oughta unclip his bike pump and whack the dogsh*t out of those SOB's in orange.
He may be a lefty, but he's our lefty. WE don't even have the right to spit on our own lefties!"

All I can think of is DuhYam people, it's ONLY A BICYCLE RACE! To the Lance hecklers in orange, Get a life and some therapy. Life is too short.



36 posted on 07/21/2004 1:36:39 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: TelephoneMan

One of the announcers yesterday or today on oln was saying that the rumor is that this intense time trial up d'Huez today was put in the Tour just to give Lance a hard time, because of going for the 6th win. (Of course it gave everyone else an even harder time.)

On the Tour thread for today, someone said that on the German sites (I guess he meant cycling sites) people were hoping Lance would be killed (!) by furious fans, before the race is over.


37 posted on 07/21/2004 1:37:18 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: BluegrassScholar
If anyone here watches the replay of the stage tonight, be sure to watch the graffiti on the roads. Some of it was pretty nasty, from "EPO --> Lance" to an outright "FUC* LANCE."

But the Americans weren't afraid to write back. Within the last few km's, there was a clear message on the road: "Rip their balls off, Lance!"
38 posted on 07/21/2004 1:37:36 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: pete anderson

My dear late father, the most enlightened man the U.S. Merchant Marine ever produced, once said, during a "World at War" segment during the early 1970's:

>>>The American fliers were spit on by those French people." Once. That was all he said. Never mentioned again.

This was a man who was brave enough to be sunk, drowned, and catch another ship. USS Wasson. Torpedoed Coast of Wales 1/31/44. The above remark is the only utterance any of us ever heard from my father about his Merchant Marine war service 1941-1946.

A man of such courage and grace as my father, would consider this beneath him, however, I think that it is certainly worth noting that a man without any prejudice whatsoever, throughout his entire exemplary life, choose the French people at large, to settle his score.


39 posted on 07/21/2004 1:37:40 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: SunnySide
The Spanish fans are uber grumpy because the pre-race favorites have come up with nada. Heras and Mayo were contenders. Mayo abandoned and Heras has had an awful Tour.
40 posted on 07/21/2004 1:38:25 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: BrooklynGOP

%$#&^*@#%^$& the filthy French!

Go Lance Go.....WIN this one for the USA!


41 posted on 07/21/2004 1:38:52 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: texasbluebell

"On the Tour thread for today, someone said that on the German sites (I guess he meant cycling sites) people were hoping Lance would be killed (!) by furious fans, before the race is over."

People who think like that are seriously disturbed. So much anger towards an athlete who has no control, no association or influence over President Bush.


42 posted on 07/21/2004 1:40:37 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: BrooklynGOP

Dude dressed in ORANGE and wearing icky EUROTRASH Sandles...LOL..way kewl...yeah, I wanna peeaUropeen

G


43 posted on 07/21/2004 1:40:47 PM PDT by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican--Flush the Johns!!)
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To: BluegrassScholar

How french!


44 posted on 07/21/2004 1:42:36 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: luv2ski

Heras should have stuck with USPS. I suspect he was on his way out anyway. Azevedo did a great job as a replacement.


45 posted on 07/21/2004 1:42:54 PM PDT by Investment Biker
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To: July 4th

Is the Race replayed on any ESPN channel? I have Dish Network but do not get the Outdoor Life Channel.

Is there any internet site that broadcasts?


46 posted on 07/21/2004 1:43:25 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: SunnySide

I don't really think it even has anything to do with Bush. They're just mad as heck that Ullrich hasn't been able to win one in all these years, since Lance took over!

Ullrich has been 2nd every year since Lance began coming in 1st.

Not sure it's at all political.

But yes, seriously disturbed, no matter what their (lack of) thinking is.


47 posted on 07/21/2004 1:44:24 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: BrooklynGOP

No wonder we Americans have such a cultural inferiority complex when compared with the sophisticates of "La Belle France"


48 posted on 07/21/2004 1:46:20 PM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: JulieRNR21

Sorry - OLN only. On the internet, you can listen live to the tour at letour.fr, or follow along on various sites with text updates like Velonews, the letour.fr site, or the BBC.


49 posted on 07/21/2004 1:46:30 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: Frank_Discussion
Where are you guys getting the idea that Lance is a leftie? I have never heard him discuss politics. I know he is not that religious (which is puzzling considering his miraculous survival) but I noticed that he had a cross around his neck at the finish today. hmmm
Also, the guy with the "F*ck Bush" on the back of his shirt also had a "livestrong" bracelet on from the Lance Armstrong Foundation to support cancer patients and survivors.
50 posted on 07/21/2004 1:47:37 PM PDT by luv2ski
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