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I'm very glad to see that all momentum on this has not been lost...
1 posted on 07/22/2004 9:40:26 AM PDT by Akira
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To: Akira

I agree. I see that W is quiet about it, but I do think he'd sign a bill for this if it got to him.


2 posted on 07/22/2004 9:44:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: Akira; *Taxreform; Taxman; Principled; Bigun; EternalVigilance; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; Poohbah; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If you would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

4 posted on 07/22/2004 9:49:45 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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"In 2000, then-Gov. George W. Bush introduced the idea of letting workers invest some of their Social Security funds into presidential politics. This year, however, he has been less vocal about the issue, largely out of deference to House Republican leaders who worry that reform is a vote loser."

Has it occurred to these spineless Republicans that letting Social Security tank would be an even bigger "vote loser?" I know I'm not thrilled about being forced to flush my money down the Socialist Security toilet!

6 posted on 07/22/2004 10:15:21 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Akira
recognizes workers' past contributions to the system by paying them back a percentage of what they put in.

How about just give me back my $$$ and I will handle it. I'll take the compounded interest hit from not having from before.

11 posted on 07/22/2004 2:33:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: Akira; *Taxreform

My SS reform plan? Convert the employer half of the payroll tax into an NRST; this would pay for current entitlements. Employees will take home the other half. We can easily do this by tacking on an additional $5,500 (employee share of payroll taxes x $80,000, which is the amount of income that is actually taxed) on to the IRA contribution limit. The IRA limit is already going to be bumped to $7,000 in the near future, so this will make it $12,500. For a couple, that means $25,000 in possible IRA contributions per year! $25k x 40 years = $1m without figuring in interest. With a annual 7% interest rate, the couple will have a $5.8M retirement fund at age 65!!!

Putting 1/2 in the hands of individuals and 1/2 into the Gov't falls in line with the CATO plan, which ensures that even if somebody loses a lot of money in the market, a SS check can be provided at 125% of the poverty line.

Converting 1/2 into the NRST will (1) make all IRA contributions entirely tax-free (including payroll) and would serve as a test-bed for the feasibility of collecting the NRST. It'd be only 3% or so, so it would be very do-able. As it proves workable, our permanent majority in Congress (oh yeah, it's happening; just look at the trending) can gradually shift more and more programs into the NRST.


12 posted on 07/22/2004 2:50:28 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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