Posted on 07/22/2004 1:18:43 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
The hijackers of United Airlines Flight 93 tried repeatedly to fend off passengers storming the cockpit in the final minutes before one of the hijackers, Ziad Jarrah, shouted Allah is the greatest and nosed the plane into a field in Somerset County, according to the final report of the September 11 commission.
The report includes a transcript of conversation captured by the cockpit voice recorder on the hijacked jetliner that shows the uprising started at 9:57 a.m. Sept. 11 after passengers onboard learned through cell phone conversations with family members that three other hijacked planes had been flown into buildings in New York and Washington.
As passengers began beating on the cockpit door, the report says, Jarrah rolled the airplane left and right, attempting to knock the passengers off balance. At 9:58:57, the report says, Jarrah began to nose the airplane up and down to topple the passengers outside the cabin door.
The recorder captured the sounds of loud thumps, crashes, shouts and breaking glasses and plates, the report states. At five seconds after 10 a.m., the recorder captured a conversation between Jarrah and another person, apparently another hijacker in the cockpit.
Is that it? Shall we finish it off? Jarrah asks the other person.
The other hijacker responds, No. Not yet. When they all come, we finish it off.
Fighting continues to be heard outside the cockpit. At that point a passenger is heard shouting, In the cockpit. If we dont well die!
Sixteen seconds later, a passenger yells, Roll it!
While the report does not state so, previous reports indicated that passengers might have used a beverage cart in an attempt to knock down the cockpit door.
At 10:01 a.m. Jarrah stopped the violent maneuvers with the airplane and said, Allah is the greatest! Allah is the greatest! He is then heard asking the other hijacker, Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?
The other replies, Yes, put it in, and pull it down.
According to the report, the hijackers never left the cockpit, but must have judged that the passengers were only seconds from overcoming them. The airplane rolled onto its back, and one oft the hijackers began shouting, Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
The aircraft struck the earth at 580 mph outside the Somerset County town of Shanksville, 20 minutes flying time from Washington.
Jarrahs objective, the report says, was to crash his airliner into symbols of the American Republic, the Capitol or the White House. He was defeated by the alerted, unarmed passengers of United 93.
(Excerpt) Read more at postgazette.com ...
Remember these are the heroes that fatass Moore called whimps.
That pretty much discounts all the conspiracy missile theories.
unarmed passengers. Imagine if just one had been armed.
30 years of teaching people not to fight armed attack came to an end that day.
Federal policy caused that entire series of events:
Disarmed aircrew
Aircrew trained to meekly submit
An American public that had been taught cowardice, had it pounded into them.
One guy on an aircraft fought the hijackers and was cut to ribbons as his fellow Americans did nothing and rode to their deaths.
It will never happen again like that either. Everyone knows it will be a fight to the death of they are on a plane, train or bus that is being hijacked.
Get yourself a gun, get armed and stay alert. The more of us that stand ready, the greater our security. The government cannot win this fight for us, on the homeland, it is up to We The People.
Fight!
Never Forget!!!!!!!
God bless the brave souls who gave their lives to save our Capitol, and God bless their grieving families. I was on Capitol Hill the morning of 9/11, and I will never forget what they did. They may have saved my life and those of many of my friends.
Will this put an end to the rumors that our planes shot down Flight 93?
What are you talking about? It was obviously a plot, and the black helicopters from the UN's secret underground lair fired a missile at the plane--that's why he says "put it in," don't you see? That's code to the pilot of the UN helicopter to fire the missile! God! This is so obvious!
Ive been waiting a long time to see that confirmed somewhere
A man and his wife that were friends of the family told me that. Theyd been out doing chores and didnt have any idea what was going on (with the attacks).
He claimed he was outside messing with his truck and heard the plane. He said he knew there was something wrong because he heard it and there was no airport nearby. Said it was low-ish in the sky when he saw it, that it was coming down at a pretty steep angle, and that it was nearly completely upside down.
the Bush campaign can't use this material.
But if we had an effective 527, they would take this clip, and the other related clips - and make it into a "this is what we are fighting for" ad, to wake up the sheeple who are fast asleep, and for whom 9-11 hardly even happened.
God bless these people and their families and friends. These passengers were Americans with nothing but sheer bravery and love of fellow man. Their actions, done while knowing they would be killed, saved untold numbers of lives on the ground, possibly in the United States Capitol building. We can never overpay tribute to their honor or bravery.
In my estimate, and of course it's God's call, but those hijackers are in Hell now. Good riddance.
"Let's roll!"... but DO NOT search Arab male airline passengers for fear of upsetting the ACLU...
Where are the pictures...where are the videos....all replaced with complacency
Is there any reason why these heroes can't qualify for the Congressional Medal of Honor? If the award can only be given to members of the military, I believe they were all part of our militia and took it upon themselves to call themselves to active duty in a time of our dire need.
Something good came out of the 911 report after all - vindication of the brave folks of flight 93.
BUMP!
He probably meant Ali.
God Bless Flight 93.
Does he really call them that? I hadn't heard that.
"Jarrahs objective, the report says, was to crash his airliner into symbols of the American Republic, the Capitol or the White House. He was defeated by the alerted, unarmed passengers of United 93."
Can you imagine what will happen if the monsters try this again? They won't have a chance ... the passengers will kill 'em before they get half-way to the cockpit and beat them to pieces.
Rolled the plane onto its back before it crashed.
That must have been horrible.
Sometime around 9:20 a.m., Deena Burnett received a phone call from her husband, Tom, 38, a senior vice president of a medical research firm in San Ramon, Calif.
Are you all right? Deena asked.
No, Tom Burnett replied. The plane has been hijacked. We are in the air. Theyve already knifed a guy. There is a bomb on board. Call the FBI.
Just before 9:30, Jeremy Glick, 31, a sales manager for an Internet service provider, called his wife, Lyz. He asked if it was true that airplanes had been crashed into the World Trade Center. She said yes.
Then he went into planning mode, Lyz Glick recalled. He said there were three guys as big as him [Jeremy, a former college judo champion, was 6 feet tall, 220 pounds] and they were thinking of jumping the hijacker with the bomb.
At 9:42, Mark Bingham, 31, owner of a public relations firm in San Francisco and a rugby player, called his mother, Alice Hoglan.
Mom, I want to let you know that I love you, Bingham said. Im on a flight from Newark to San Francisco and there are three guys who have taken over the plane and say they have a bomb.
There was a pause. Hoglan said she could hear murmurs of Mark conversing with others. Then the line went dead.
Todd Beamer, 32, an account manager for Oracle Corp. in Princeton, N.J., and a former college baseball player, couldnt get hold of his wife, but did get patched through to Lisa Jefferson, a Verizon supervisor, at 9:45 a.m.
Beamer told Jefferson 27 of the passengers had been herded to the rear of the plane, where they were being guarded by the hijacker who said he had a bomb. There was another hijacker in first class, and two in the cockpit, he said.
As Beamer was concluding his conversation with Jefferson, Deena Burnett got another call from her husband Tom.
Theyre taking airplanes and hitting landmarks all up and down the East Coast, she told him.
OK, Tom replied. Were going to do something. Ill call you back.
Beamer had put down the phone, but hadnt hung it up. Lisa Jefferson heard him say: Are you guys ready? Lets roll.
MINUTEMEN WITH CELLPHONES
Intern the Muslims now.
The plane that had the guy cut to ribbons while the the passengers watched was probably a plane full of peace activists singing "Give Peace a Chance" as the guy was being murdered.
What a bunch of wimps this country had produced,
The terrorists think so,and they are right.
Time for a change,and fast!
Too bad they weren't armed passengers. Might have saved the aircraft and all the souls on board, minus the hijackers and those they'd already killed that is.
Take this clip and use it along with Kerry stating that the terrorism threat is greatly exaggerated.
God bless the Heroes of Flight 93, and their families. RIP, all.
Unless John Kerry and his cohorts are on the flight. In that case, he will call the UN and wait for instructions.
God bless America.
Don't judge those passengers too badly. It's all based on what you know. At the time of the first couple hijackings, standard procedure was that the hijackers would take over, fly the plane somewhere, land it, negotiate for a while, and then the inevitable commando raid would come and most of the hijackers and some of the hostages would be shot. There was no experience to indicate that anything else would happen. The passengers were shocked, not cowardly. The passengers on Flight 93 had the advantage of knowing what the likely outcome of their flight would be, and therefore took steps to prevent it.
As far as I am concerned, we have not paid back the Islamic trash that did this to America. Why is Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria still standing. Why do we have such gutless wonders in our nation. We will not get another chance when Hanoi Johnnie and a democommie Rat congress takes over. The U.N. will forbid us to do anything!
Country full of wimps?
YOU BET.
The nation is still full of them, or else Kerry wouldn't have anywhere near his poll numbers. There are a number of people who buy into his plan to have a parley with the terrorists because America is evil, lead by the idiot Bush and the corporate mastermind, Cheney. These are misunderstood Muslims who would just love us if we could make some concessions and cure AIDS, save the world from Halliburton induced Global Warming, cooling or whatever the latest version of that idiotic scare is right now.
How very sad. May we never forget or forgive.
Kerry says threat of terrorism is exaggerated
January 30, 2004
By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
GREENVILLE, S.C. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said during last night's Democratic presidential debate that the threat of terrorism has been exaggerated.
"I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism. "They are misleading all Americans in a profound way."
The Flight 93 passengers and crew were the only ones to fully realize, due to the timeline, that the Islamofanatics had declared war and brought the battle to our shores. Those on the other flights didn't have the time.
As soon as the Flight 93 passengers and crew realized we were at war, they took the battle to the enemy....and, by sacrificing themselves, they stopped the plot and defeated the enemy in the battle by prohibiting the terrorists from flying the plane its intended destination for more death and destruction.
Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
I'd kill them with my own hands or die for the effort. Reading those words brings it all back, not that I'd forgotton. The American people should HEAR these tapes.
God Bless Flight '93.
"There was no experience that anything else would happen"
NOT TRUE.
Well before then an Islamic terrorist co-pilot deliberately flew an aircraft into the Atlantic shouting "Allah Akabar" all the way down.
No, what happened was institutional cowardice, official policy that had been drilled into aircrew, based upon the false premise that arming the aircrew to defend the plane was bad, and that was based upon the same idiocy of telling the American people that being armed with a loaded gun to resist criminal agression was a bad outcome. Meeting the attack armed is the best possible outcome, and always has been. Nothing guarantees safety, but the best course is to have your gun at hand, loaded, and be ready to employ it.
ARM YOURSELVES AND BE READY AMERICA.
Homeland security is a "We The People" business.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/transcripts/debatetranscript29.html
Transcript: Democratic Candidates Debate in South Carolina
COPYRIGHT 2004 BY FDCH e-Media, Inc.
Thursday, Janary 29, 2004
The following is the transcript of Thursday night's debate between the seven Democratic presidential candidates in Greenville, S.C.:
BROKAW: We're back on stage at the Peace Center for Performing Arts in Greenville, South Carolina, with the seven presidential candidates contesting for the Democratic presidential nomination. South Carolina's primary is next Tuesday.
Senator Kerry, let me ask you a question. Robert Kagan, who writes about these issues a great deal from the Carnegie Institute for Peace, has written recently that Europeans believe that the Bush administration has exaggerated the threat of terrorism, and the Bush administration believes that the Europeans simply don't get it.
Who is right?
KERRY: I think it's somewhere in between. I think that there has been an exaggeration and there has been a refocusing...
I cried all over reading this, once again. Wished I could have reached out to help them. God bless them. They tried to help themselves.
He made a statement to the effect that the airplane was full of white whimps and that if more blacks flew they would have done something about it.
And our trustworthy government states, through inactivity and twisted reports, that eyewitnesses to airline crashes (Flight 800) are not trustworthy. Ah huh.
There were some real bad asses on that plane.
Bush....Use It.
I had the same reaction you did. Seeing those new pictures of the jihadist scumbags getting wanded by airport security at Dulles and then walking onto the planes made me sick. It infuriates me that DOT is still obstructing the program to arm our pilots. That's literally suicidal.
To die with your hands at the enemies throat. Now that is the way to die. Sometimes when I think that America does not have the courage to fight anymore, I think of flight 93 and have hope for America.
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