Posted on 07/23/2004 1:07:11 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
A BAND OF 14 ILLEGAL ALIEN SYRIANS?!
By Michelle Malkin · July 23, 2004 01:47 AM
WNBC investigative reporter Scott Weinberger reported on Joe Scarborough's MSNBC show tonight that the 14 Syrians on Northwest Flight 327 ALL had expired visas. He said that law enforcement officials xeroxed the men's paperwork without looking at the dates. The visas had expired nearly a month earlier, according to Weinberger.
If this is true, this is absolutely unbelievable!!
They were illegals thats just icing on the yellowcake
PING
Thought you would want to see this...
US security must be made aware that their 2 great oceans are no protection anymore. 9/11 should have taught them that. If this story is true, this is a great failure, and sad that even after 9/11/01 this occurs. But then again, who knows what has been sneaking in from Mexico and Canada.
This does not give me much confidence in the background checks that the Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, and LAPD may or may not have conducted on the men before letting them walk away. Would you trust the terrorism investigation of officials who apparently neglected to verify whether these men--coming from a designated state sponsor of terrorism--WERE EVEN IN THE COUNTRY LEGALLY?!?!?!
If Weinberger's reporting is accurate, I won't be surprised. The 14 men join a club of at least an estimated 2.3 million illegal visa overstayers currently living in the U.S. today. Until September 11, 2001, the Visa Overstayers Club also included "student" Hani Hanjour and "businessmen and tourist" Nawaf al-Hazmi and Satam al-Suqami.
If this is true, this will get quite ugly.....
I don't understand. What visa would they be under? Visitor, right. For the gig and short duration. Why would the date be expired for the specific dates they where to be here. Was it the passports? That I could understand. But those would be check several spots prior...Syria, any layover before entry to US, Detroit.
This is a good time to remind everyone that our law enforcement is not perfect and they (we) need to stay aware of what us happening around them (us) at all times.
We are the 1st line of defense, not the LEO's or the military!
Ping....
Thanks.
Brigette also just mentioned this article in the other thread.
I guess it will turn out, that nobody put their "musical instruments" through an X-ray machine to find out what may have been inside them.
How many of us would have been fired for doing such a crappy job as that?! Doesn't anyone pay attention to the dates on these visas or do we have people getting paid/bribed to let them in?
This might interest you....
so we're hearing about this from someone outside of FR.com, I guess that shows that NOBODY watches Scarborough's show
We failed to reform our immigration policies by midnight on 911 , and this lunacy continues to this day.
I am going to absolutely pray that if this is true, and they were let go, they will be surveilanced 24-7... BUT...
why were they let go???? Heads should role, how to get this on FOX and repeated until we puke?
It was on Micelles website, I just ran across it while we were on another thread. I told FairOpinion that this new info should have a thread of it's own.
If this is true, you can bet the rent, there is going to be a whole lot of very angry people!
I think I read somewhere that they did fingerprint them -- hopefully they are also following them.
This is mind boggling! One can imagine what else is being missed.
Send the info to Fox & Friends, maybe they will cover it this morning!
You would not only be fired, but probably prosecuted!
Will do.....
Good question.
Prior to 2001 I was acquainted with two people who overstayed their visas. One was a woman (with two children) fleeing an abusive husband in Pakistan and the other a British man.
Both had neglected to send in necessary paperwork to the INS, both neglected to make their mandatory return appointments and both heard instantly from the INS.
The Pakistani woman first received an official INS letter, then a phone call and then an INS official made a fast judgement that the woman was going to be deported, that is put on a plane and sent back to Pakistan in two weeks.
Because of her circumstances, I wanted to help her stay. I phoned local elected officials and several immigration attorneys. Finally one attorney helped her and she and her two children were able to stay.
The British man was forcefully escorted out several times yet he would always sneak back in through Canada. In his case, it seemed to be more sport than anything. He seemed delighted when INS came looking for him at his place of work. His co-workers and boss always covered for him.
Remembering the frequent and direct interactions with INS officials experienced by the Pakistani woman and the British man, I'm baffled how anyone these days can get away with overstaying a visitor's visa or cheating the system for an employment visa.
I am putting out this to most news services I can think of. Will be looking for it in a few hours...We'll see....
Did you see this?
Terrorists easily faked passports, panel reports
http://www.iht.com/articles/530713.htm
"Al Qaeda itself created a document forgery unit that was skilled at making adjustments in the field while building institutional knowledge on "cleaning" documents - how to substitute photographs or to erase or add travel stamps - as well as avoiding document confiscation and generally keeping the pipeline of fraudulent documents flowing."
Another interesting article:
Tracking 'Terrorist Travel' Is a Key Defense
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7647-2004Jul22.html
"Before the Sept. 11 attacks, the U.S. government was ill-equipped to match al Qaeda's sophistication in this area, partly because the Immigration and Naturalization Service was overwhelmed even by its basic immigration tasks, the report said.
Even so, five al Qaeda members who intended to take part in the Sept. 11 attacks were denied entry into the United States because their papers were not in order. The commission's report also said that if immigration rules had been enforced strictly, as many as 15 of the 19 hijackers might have been barred from the country because they were not the tourists they claimed to be, or they violated other regulations.
Officials said analysts at the CIA and elsewhere now keep track of the theft of blank unissued passports around the world and bribe-taking by employees of passport offices in foreign nations. "
Not perfect? NOT PERFECT?!?! I get more scutiny when I use a credit card at a restaurant where I go twice a week!!!! These federal agents have less intelligence and "common" sense than than the kid sweeping the floor at McDonald's.
Ping
This is more than disturbing!
Did you read this part?
This does not give me much confidence in the background checks that the Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, and LAPD may or may not have conducted on the men before letting them walk away. Would you trust the terrorism investigation of officials who apparently neglected to verify whether these men--coming from a designated state sponsor of terrorism--WERE EVEN IN THE COUNTRY LEGALLY?!?!?!
Disturbed ditto!!!!!
There are still almost no armed pilots and darned few marshals.
"We failed to reform our immigration policies by midnight on 911 , and this lunacy continues to this day."
What you said!
It's the only foolproof and sane thing to do.
BUMP
An instantly checkable fingerprint on an ID card and on visas and passports would take care of a lot of this. Just swipe them through a reader hooked into a database.
This is a huge problem. The system is only as good as its weakest link and it appears PEOPLE are one of the weak links. IF IT IS TRUE that these law enforcement folks let these guys slip through with expired VISAs simply because they didn't pay attention to the dates--EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE FIRED. This isn't the first time I have heard of this kind of slacker attitude at the front line and letting potential terrorists get through when they could have been caught.
If these guys are touring the country performing, shouldn't someone, somewhere be saying where the performances are? I mean, "yeah, I went to their concert last night....they are legit". I've heard nothing of the sort.
For what it's worth, on another thread it was reported that these guys were playing a "Middle-eastern Night" at the Seycuan Resort & Casino outside of San Diego.
Hunt them down and saw their heads off.
The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.
Anybody so incompetent as to not check the date of the visas on 14 Syrians must be fired immediately.
> A BAND OF 14 ILLEGAL ALIEN SYRIANS?!
/humor break
Oh yeah? What do they call themselves? Abdullah and the Qaueda-tones?
Look out for the "Syrian Invasion."
Microchip them. It works with dogs.
Precisely! Why the heck are any Syrians allowed to just fly to Vegas.
Were Japanese musicians doing gigs in the US in 1943.
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