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73 percent of all federal income taxes needed to fund Medicare and Social Security entitlements
Comments on 2004 Social Security Trustees' Report ^ | 7/23/04 | Mike Thompson

Posted on 07/23/2004 2:33:35 PM PDT by mft112345

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To: mft112345

Minimally, the retirement age should be raised 1 year every 5 years for the next 25 years.


21 posted on 07/23/2004 3:02:49 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: sarcasm

According to the Congressional Budget Office, roughly $400 billion over ten years. Trustees say the new permanent entitlement will cost $16.6 trillion.


22 posted on 07/23/2004 3:03:46 PM PDT by mft112345
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To: qam1

Ping!


23 posted on 07/23/2004 3:06:57 PM PDT by Springman (The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and I'm one of the middle fingers..)
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To: mft112345
According to the Congressional Budget Office, roughly $400 billion over ten years. Trustees say the new permanent entitlement will cost $16.6 trillion.

Try $ 534 billion over ten years - only God knows the ultimate cost for this boondoggle.

24 posted on 07/23/2004 3:12:55 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: mft112345

Gen X & Y are just gonna have to suck it up.


25 posted on 07/23/2004 3:19:04 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: sarcasm

And the Democrats chastised him for spending too little. They wanted to pass a $800B plan. Heaven help us.


26 posted on 07/23/2004 3:21:39 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: Nakatu X

A left wing Republican can't out-pander a Democrat


28 posted on 07/23/2004 3:24:44 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: PeterPrinciple
...or do you have a lot of debt and know you can pay it back with inflated dollars???

That scenario might work out OK for those of us who have recently purchased over-priced homes in California. We live in the San Francisco bay area, and have a huge mortgage at a fixed interest rate.

29 posted on 07/23/2004 3:25:45 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: sarcasm

Good point... Bush did not turn the vote of one single elderly Democrat on this... His sudden drop in the polls after Saddam's capture followed right after his amnesty & prescription drug plan... coincidence?


30 posted on 07/23/2004 3:30:50 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: sarcasm

"Try $ 534 billion over ten years - only God knows the ultimate cost for this boondoggle."

Instead of working to eliminate Medicare, the added benefit package that he worked so hard to get passes is more than enough, without the rest of his socialistic adjenda, to get him thrown out of office.


31 posted on 07/23/2004 3:31:58 PM PDT by dalereed
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Bush did not turn the vote of one single elderly Democrat on this

Ummm, that wasn't the reason for the program.

32 posted on 07/23/2004 3:36:04 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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If our friends in Washington would simply take 15% of our wages, (the same 15% there taking now) and allow them to be invested into a mutual fund, there would be no need for social security. (Mutual funds average 12% over time, of course the Dims will whine and complain every time it goes down)

The new influx of cash would be HUGE for the market.

If you earn $ 48,000 / year, and invest $ 600 / month from age 40, then you will retire with 1.1 million, and you can live off the $ 11,000 monthly interest.

If you do that from age 20, the results are STUNNING, you retire with 10 million.

This is the same $ 600 / month the gov takes from you, and returns about $ 1000 / month and you have no principle.

Let me invest my own $$$ and I won't need or want SS.


33 posted on 07/23/2004 3:36:08 PM PDT by simhomer
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To: sarcasm

what was, then? Bush may be more upstanding than the Democrats, but in the end, he is still a politician...


34 posted on 07/23/2004 3:39:13 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: BenLurkin

I've actually seen (a few) FReepers implying that the taxpayers owe the moolah to those who steal, squander, and otherwise consume it.

Retirement and health care are not entitlements. If only the GOP agreed.


35 posted on 07/23/2004 3:44:47 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Nakatu X
Precarious Prescription

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A March 2 Wall Street Journal report said these six big corporations alone will be receiving $2.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies (in millions): BellSouth ($572), Delphi ($500), U.S. Steel ($500), American Airlines ($450), John Deere ($300-$400), and Alcoa ($190).

36 posted on 07/23/2004 3:44:57 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

I think it's more like the stage between dependency (food stamps, rent vouchers, WIC, etc.) and bondage (taxes, codes, ordinances, permits, licenses, etc). Only to get worse as time goes on.


37 posted on 07/23/2004 3:47:57 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: sarcasm
Ah yes, big business kickbacks... all I can say is... for the $534B + counting they just got, Eli Lilly & the other pharmaceuticals better be donating up the wazoo in 2004!
38 posted on 07/23/2004 3:52:28 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: randog
No problem--we'll just import some more of our South O' the Border compadres to pick up the tab.

Only they tend not to pay in. How many "contract laborers" hired by the factories are paid under the table so never pay in a dime --- but will collect plenty of our retirement dollars by claiming to have used a stolen Social Security number?

39 posted on 07/23/2004 3:57:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Nakatu X

Whose pocket does it come out of?


40 posted on 07/23/2004 3:58:24 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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