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Tribes enlist Arnie's help in fishing feud
The Scotsman ^ | July 24, 2004 | JAMES DOW

Posted on 07/24/2004 2:35:05 AM PDT by MadIvan

Native Americans demonstrating in Edinburgh yesterday Fish rotting in the Klamath river. The tribesmen are calling for fish ladders or other measures to allow salmon to move upstream. Picture: David Moir

NATIVE Americans embroiled in a dispute with the energy company ScottishPower have pledged to take their case to the governor of the State of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The tribesmen were in Edinburgh yesterday to demonstrate at ScottishPower’s annual meeting. They say dams owned by a subsidiary of the company have damaged their fishing grounds.

They publicly challenged the chief executive of ScottishPower, Ian Russell, to make a personal commitment to resolving the long-running feud.

Mr Russell, who held private talks with the tribes on Thursday, promised to take charge of the company’s negotiations.

But the chairman of the delegation representing the tribes, Leaf Miller, said he would bring further pressure to bear on the company by seeking Mr Schwarzenegger’s support.

Mr Schwarzenegger is one of only a small number of people with the power to intervene in the dispute and force a solution.

The row concerns six dams in the north of California owned by ScottishPower’s US subsidiary, PacifiCorp. Four tribes - the Klamath, Karuk, Yurok and Hoopa - say the dams have devastated the salmon stock in the Klamath river basin.

The salmon are an important part of their economy, religion and history, and the tribes are trying to persuade ScottishPower to modify or remove its dams to allow fish to migrate up-river.

A member of the Indians’ delegation - whose native American name is Mohiswaqs but who introduced himself at the shareholders’ meeting as Jeff Mitchell - made an impassioned plea for support from the mostly Scottish audience.

He said: "I want to thank you, the people of Scotland, for your hospitality and for allowing us to come into your homelands to speak to you in this way.

"My people have suffered enormous harm. We would like to see a full range of alternatives - consistent with our principles - to address the issues we have raised. I will come back here again and again until we find a solution."

Mr Russell replied that the tribes had his "absolute commitment" to finding an answer to their dispute. He said: "We completely respect the sovereign nations who are represented here today. They have behaved with great dignity."

ScottishPower is currently seeking a new licence to operate the dams from the US water regulator. The tribes are pressuring the regulator to insert a clause in the licence requiring ScottishPower to provide solutions such as fish ladders - which allow salmon to leap upstream.

Scottish & Southern Energy, the Perth-based rival to ScottishPower, has installed similar devices on some rivers in Scotland. Some of the Californian dams are too tall, however, to accommodate fish ladders, requiring different solutions.

As governor of the state of California, Mr Schwarzenegger can demand the regulator inserts guarantees to protect the tribes’ interests. Mr Schwarzenegger’s office was unavailable yesterday to comment on its intentions in the case.

Mr Miller said he would press for the governor’s support shortly. "We have had an initial contact with the governor’s office and I will take a campaign to them when I return to the US," he said.

"In fact, we believe we already have strong support from some of the state’s agencies, such as the Water Resource Control Board."

Mr Russell told The Scotsman he was unwilling to set a deadline to resolve the discussion. "Some of these licence applications can take up to ten years," he said.

Mr Mitchell said he hoped the company would report at its annual meeting in 2005 that the two sides had agreed a solution.

ScottishPower shareholders heard that the Indian tribes had spent more than three years in negotiations with the company’s American subsidiary. They have been pressuring it to add - of its own volition - the desired clauses into its licence application.

But when the company recently submitted its draft application to the US water regulator, there was no mention of the salmon issue. The document is understood to weigh 80lb and stand three-and-a-half feet high.

Mr Mitchell said: "My people have spent years in meetings with PacifiCorp, one week of every month. We have committed enormous resources and hard work. The company’s interest in the dams is a very small fraction of their energy production."

He said ScottishPower’s commitment to the environment on issues such as green energy was "impressive". Such concerns were in the interests of shareholders, he said, and he asked them to press the company to extend its consideration to California.

Molly White, from the Karuk tribe, who had travelled to the protest with her 14-month-old son, Nicknekich, said: "We hope the shareholders hear our message and we hope it has an effect, because the fish are dying and we cannot live without our fish."

The chief executive of PacifiCorp, Judi Johansen, said she was "100 per cent committed" to finding a solution to the tribes’ requests. She had joined Mr Russell in the talks with the delegation on Thursday.

Mr Schwarzenegger - also known as Conan the Republican and The Governator in American political circles - pledged recently to "fight like a warrior" for the people of California.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arnold; indians; klamath; klamathbasincrisis
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I really don't envy Arnold.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/24/2004 2:35:06 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 07/24/2004 2:35:35 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Wait a minute - wasn't there something about irrigation problems at Klamath basin for farmers resulting out of environmental protection of some 'endangered species'? This is going back a few years.

Maybe I'm confused


3 posted on 07/24/2004 2:39:26 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: MadIvan

BTW, is it true that over-fishing by native American tribes has resulted in the depletion of many salmon stocks - not just at Klamath, but in rivers across the US?


4 posted on 07/24/2004 2:41:48 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: MadIvan

whats a fish ladder?


5 posted on 07/24/2004 2:42:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Time for a Constitutional Amendment banning Government giving money away to anyone or anything...)
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To: GeronL

A series of pools arranged like ascending steps at the side of a stream, enabling migrating fish to swim upstream around a dam or other obstruction


6 posted on 07/24/2004 2:51:11 AM PDT by Pylon (NSD 7-4-69 12-24-87)
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To: Pylon

You looked that up, right?


7 posted on 07/24/2004 2:54:40 AM PDT by GeronL (Time for a Constitutional Amendment banning Government giving money away to anyone or anything...)
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To: GeronL
whats a fish ladder?

Didn't you know? A fish ladder is for fish that have grown feet, after their bodies morphed from all the nasty pollution those damn oil-hungry republicans pumped in the US national rivers. Damnit! ;-)

8 posted on 07/24/2004 3:45:33 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: Happygal; farmfriend; Jeff Head; take; *KlamathBasinCrisis
Wait a minute - wasn't there something about irrigation problems at Klamath basin for farmers resulting out of environmental protection of some 'endangered species'? This is going back a few years.

Yes, and there were some FReepers involved with that.

9 posted on 07/24/2004 5:28:08 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Happygal

Nice factual response from someone who calls themselves a journalist... *cough*


10 posted on 07/24/2004 6:06:10 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui (http://www.RightGoths.com/ - Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. Wear black and be proud!)
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To: GeronL
whats a fish ladder?


Come on, everybody know that,


It's a aluminum frame ladder that can extend twice the size of it's frame shaped like a largemouth Bass, where start at the tail and climb your way up to its head.
11 posted on 07/24/2004 6:10:20 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: MadIvan
You shouldn't envy Arnold. He's at the nexus of California Republican politics, as divisive and in-fighting a group as there ever was.

Can't speak to the Hoopa issue. We have an old dam in my area without ladders and I'm all for a project to retrofit it.

12 posted on 07/24/2004 7:08:09 AM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
13 posted on 07/24/2004 9:04:41 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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BTTT!!!!!!!


14 posted on 07/24/2004 9:12:20 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: farmfriend
Farmfriend, can you jog my memory. What was the endangered spieces that lead to problems in the Klamath basin previously?
15 posted on 07/24/2004 9:13:02 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: Happygal

Coho Salmon and the short nosed and lost sucker fish


16 posted on 07/24/2004 9:14:11 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
Ah! Yes! The sucker fish! Thanks. I'm going to have to start taking more fish oils meself to improve my long-term memory! :-)
17 posted on 07/24/2004 9:15:45 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: MadIvan

Some of these tribes are now casino rich, and aren't they considered independent nations, and not subject to State and County laws? At least that what the Hoopas told us a few years ago, when we chose to pay to camp in a campground on their reservation and their young punks drove in and shot guns over our tents, making us leave in the middle of the night.
They also used to be in the habit of trying to strong arm truck drivers going up the Klamath highway at night. My ex's uncle used to drive truck through that area. They would roll 55 gallon drums onto the highway to stop drivers and then demand a toll.
I have no sympathy for some of these tribes


18 posted on 07/24/2004 9:27:03 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Can't the Dems ever offer a candidate that isn't a lawyer!!)
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To: tertiary01
I am an Indian from the Yurok tribe of that area and I have never heard of the things that you are stating. I would think that if it did happen, it was a bunch of young rowdy punks that have been drinking. Spent half my life in that area and know these Indians well. Very good people and peaceful. There are always a few bad apples. Please try not to judge the whole tribe on the behavior of a few.
19 posted on 07/24/2004 10:01:26 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: tertiary01
None of these tribes mentioned are "Casino Rich". There are no There is one small casino in Trinidad just north of Eureka but it is small and though it is in traditional Yurok territory, it is owned by the Rancheria there and not by the tribe. There is a fairly large casino in Crescent City but it is owned by the Tolowa tribe. They are doing well but not any where close to "rich". I believe the reason there are not more casinos in that area is that it is in a wilderness area. One needs lots of highway traffic and population to have a rich casino.
20 posted on 07/24/2004 10:09:15 AM PDT by fish hawk
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