Posted on 07/26/2004 4:42:20 PM PDT by Pokey78
I've never hunted deer in my life (nothing against it - mind you), but I always thought you hunted for deer with a rifle.
Shotguns are for the birds, aren't they? (pun fully intended).
I'd say he's about summed up contemporary life: violence, sex, and things. Another candidate might be able to say something interesting on one or more of those subjects, but not JFKerry.
Thanks for the ping to a wonderful writer who can use ah, pudenda and potty mouth in the same article!
John Effin' Kerry has about as much "gravitas" as my cat-box.
That was my first question too. I didn't know that one blasted deer with a shotgun. I'm not a hunter, but even I've heard of a deer rifle. To kill the deer humanely, wouldn't you have to get pretty close to be sure you killed it in one or two shots, and A) isn't it extremely difficult to get that close to a deer, and B) wouldn't you put a rather large hole into the thing? The dead deer I've seen didn't look like they'd been ventilated with a shotgun at close range.
Afterwards, asked about his apparent enthusiasm for the potty-mouthed has-beens, he replied thus: "When I talked about the heart and soul, I'm talking about the artistic expression. I'm talking about sort of the, I mean, I believe in the arts. I think that there's a great expression in it, and there's always this struggle. You know, does life imitate art or art imitate life? Which comes first? It's a little of both."I do think we have a responsibility, as leaders, to stand up. I think there were people at that concert we had in New York who stepped over the line. I've said that. They don't speak for me. They speak for themselves. I will stand up and struggle, as others have, to try to get that right balance between violence and sex and things."God help us if this is the standard of moral courage forwarded by a major US political party. Why does the universe allow us to persist with leaders like these? Aren't the maladapted supposed to die out in favor of the more fit and all that?
With this kind of response, I'm starting to wonder if this clown has ever even touched a firearm of any sort, even in Vietnam.
The double-barrel, however, is less common, and single-shots are even less. Most folks use either a pump gun or a semiauto. That said, I have been hunting with folks who took a nice buck with a N.E.F. single-shot.
When a shotgun is used for deer, most of the time a "slug" is used (one big piece of lead) not "shot".
It's bigger than a rifle bullet, but moves much more slowly, and is inaccurate at long ranges. But in the East deer are mostly shot at very short ranges, and in populated areas, slugs are safer than rifles, because rifle bullets can travel amazingly long distances....
Uhhhhhhhh, using a 12 guage to hunt deer is illegal in NM.
BTTT
I occasionally used to hunt with a 12 guage. Not with a double barrel, but with a Remington 11-48 automatic. In very tight woods, a 12 guage with 00 or 000 buckshot is a good choice. It's a different challenge than going with a rifle in more open areas. I never had a shot at a deer when I was using a shotgun where the deer was more than 100 feet away ... the woods were so thick that if they were farther away, you never would have seen them. In the more open areas with a rifle, they are usually 150 yards to 350 yards away.
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