[Cronos]

For all of China's prowess, it was still an ox-cart nation until it stole some of our R&D, and was given the rest

The US was still an ox-cart nation until the 1920s.....

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, that is true. And before the 2080s, long before, we're going to be dealing with a monster in China, mostly due to the short sighted actions we have taken. Of course they may implode financially, so we'll have to take it as it comes.

[blam]

"The US was still an ox-cart nation until the 1920s....."

My dad said in his youth that it was routine to plant large cotton fields with a horse and a one man plow.