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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

That's rich, calling anti-socialists who have not hesitated to get out into the streets at one point or another in their lives, like Walesa and Reagan (back in the 1950s), closet admirers. It did cost more when protesters were shot dead by socialist filth in Latvia, Rangoon, Beijing, Tbilisi, Yerevan, Moldova, Bucharest, Prague, and on and on, and others were sent to the GULAG after the protests of 1968 swept Eastern Europe, or Poland throughout the 1970s and 1980s. Here, there is no such risk, but then the contemporary generation of bums have retreated to a smug isolation behind their computers and televisions. From Sons of Liberty (1765-1773) to protesters in Poland, Romania, Latvia, Armenia, Rangoon, Beijing, you name it, those tactics have worked and rallied hundreds of millions to the cause of liberty republican-style. Millions in the streets of Poland, hundreds of thousands in Berlin and Riga. I WAS THERE, and so were a lot of other AMERICANS supporting their causes with money, bodies, and more. Where were you? Are you calling them all secret admirers?

There is a lesson here about "power." It is the power to energize people to ACT for their values. It is not that the street is the only tactic that means anything, but rather it is a reflection of a deeper ability to "mobilize." The GOP hasn't been able to mobilize anything since Reagan -- you may not even be old enough to remember the street rallies by YAFers and even the local GOP from 1968 through 1988. I was in street actions (signs, counter-protests, etc.) ORGANIZED BY THE GOP ITSELF back then. Not today - it is run by wimps trading favors for cash and "media buys." For that matter, how many people have the Republicans actually RALLIED (that is, new voters, not just living off the Reagan legacy) in the past decade while they shovel weak-kneed drivel behind media buys(last I checked they lost the popular vote the last time, and continue their slide into oblivion [if it weren't for 9/11, this election would already be long over, and the GOP marginalized, while this "war bounce" will NOT last forever]). Consider that Bush is running against Dukakis' old LTGOV and a borderline communist sympathizer (right up there with Hanoi Jane) -- and he can only generate a dead heat? PATHETIC> Reagan, even Goldwater, would be running away with this election. If the GOP (state and local levels) had any spark and organizational talent this race would be long over.

On the Boston Common I met an MIT grad from China involved in a protest of America's "free hand" given to Communist "state terrorists" in China say how much he admired Reagan, and wondered whatever happened to the GOP. I had to tell him the sad truth, the Republican revolutions of 1980 and 1994 were history, because the party had been taken over by self-satisfied money-grubbing parisites who don't even know what they stand FOR, let alone AGAINST.


62 posted on 07/30/2004 11:54:56 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
It did cost more when protesters were shot dead by socialist filth in Latvia

Oh course that's relevant because there's a chance those Greens you were around outside the DNC were armed. Get over yourself.

Millions in the streets of Poland, hundreds of thousands in Berlin and Riga. I WAS THERE, and so were a lot of other AMERICANS supporting their causes with money, bodies, and more. Where were you? Are you calling them all secret admirers?

No just you. Protesting's great, when there is something specific to do so. There hasn't been at the conventions in a long time, its just a huge mess of different Leftist factions ranting about things that don't matter to average Americans. I know, happened to be at the one in 2000 in LA.

It is the power to energize people to ACT for their values.

This of course is brilliantly illustrated by comparing Ashcroft to Kerry? I know the Leftists love to talk about all these rights lost because of that evil religious zealot, but I have never heard of A SINGLE VERIFIABLE right that Americans have lost because of that guy, he's just a punching for the Left, so when I read you defend that ugly woman's infantile little sign, you bet your a$$ I am going to suspect you are a secret admirer of the Leftists because you sound like them.

The GOP hasn't been able to mobilize anything since Reagan -- you may not even be old enough to remember the street rallies by YAFers and even the local GOP from 1968 through 1988. I was in street actions

I was old enough, yet never heard of it, could it be that it amounted to absolutely NOTHING?

Not today - it is run by wimps trading favors for cash and "media buys." For that matter, how many people have the Republicans actually RALLIED (that is, new voters, not just living off the Reagan legacy) in the past decade while they shovel weak-kneed drivel

That is all true, don't forget how they've sold us out to Cheap Labor interests so that we have to deal with a Mexican invasion that they will do nothing to stop.

Consider that Bush is running against Dukakis' old LTGOV and a borderline communist sympathizer (right up there with Hanoi Jane) -- and he can only generate a dead heat? PATHETIC> Reagan, even Goldwater, would be running away with this election. If the GOP (state and local levels) had any spark and organizational talent this race would be long over.

No arguements here, Bush was a bad nominee, another case of the party big wigs triangulating by running somebody who has a last name we recognize no matter how inarticulate he is. (I'm still voting for him in November to stop Kerry.) But I still don't see what walking around with signs in a cage in Boston is suppsed to do about it?

On the Boston Common I met an MIT grad from China involved in a protest of America's "free hand" given to Communist "state terrorists" in China say how much he admired Reagan, and wondered whatever happened to the GOP.

Well, its the Cold War 2, but this time we are fighting someone who uses capitalism to fund their empire. The GOP won't say anything because the are getting part of the cut. However, this has nothing to do with a circle jerk of 20 people holding vague, innarticulate signs and ranting to each other. Protests only matter when they are about specific hot button issues that matter to regular folks getting by in life, you are appealing to the activists and its going to get you nowhere and make you miserable. Just pick a single cause and market it. You are taking on the world and its going to stomp you.

64 posted on 07/31/2004 10:57:58 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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