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No Longer Pushing the Death Penalty
The Nations ^ | 07/27/2004 | John Nichols

Posted on 07/28/2004 10:18:07 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Geraldo did an interview with O'Reilly about a year or so ago. I took it from that interview that both of them were packing. Geraldo asked first and O'Reilly responded with, "Are you?". Geraldo said he wasn't telling and O'Reilly responded that he wasn't either. Neither would admit to it or deny it but it seemed like both were "packing", as they put it.


21 posted on 07/28/2004 12:03:31 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: neverdem

As you point out, DNA reports can be manipulated. One doesn't get certainty on DNA evidence alone. What would provide CERTAINTY of a capital crime? Some of those that would be convincing to me (off the top of my head):

1. Captured in the act (as with a cop killer.)
2. Multiple eyewitnesses otherwise unconnected to the accused.
3. Single eyewitness with multiple items of support.
4. Virtual eyewitness: video tape, audio tape, tv camera, etc.
5. Confessions in which the accused offers confirmatory evidence in addition to the confession.
6. Multiple points of biometric evidence that eliminate all other possibilities.


22 posted on 07/28/2004 12:46:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: neverdem
Of course Dems don't support capital punishment. Dead criminals can't vote.

Oh, wait a minute... what was I thinking?

Never mind.

23 posted on 07/28/2004 12:55:09 PM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (How do you know what's right for America? Do the Dim Test: If democrats are against it, it's good.)
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To: neverdem
I break with most here on this issue.

I'm for the most part opposed to the death penalty. I don't trust having government with that kind of power.

The only cases I support it are for treason, terrorists, war cases, and possibly in cases where guilt can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt(not reasonable doubt). Other than that, I can't back it.

Flame away.

24 posted on 07/28/2004 2:47:00 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: neverdem
I thought George Will changed his mind on 2A(Not positive on it, but I read something on FR on it).

Krauthammer I disagree with bigtime on this, but at least he's honest about it as well as the point of the AW ban. O'Reilly is a joke on this issue.

25 posted on 07/28/2004 2:48:59 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: neverdem

John F*ckin' is out the mainstream on the death penalty. He is as much a card-carrying ACLU member on the issue of being soft on murderers as another Massachusettan named Michael Dukakis was.


26 posted on 07/28/2004 3:35:43 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

What an astonishingly poorly written article! They must be really scraping the bottom of the barrel these days. Regardless of the relative merits of the DP, citing the ACLU, an un-elected group if there ever was one, leaves the sensitive reader underwhelmed, if not suspicious.


27 posted on 07/28/2004 4:04:09 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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