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Kerry to Colombian president: break ties between army & paramilitaries (predicts his foreign policy)
AFP via Yahoo News ^ | 7/28/04

Posted on 07/28/2004 12:05:00 PM PDT by Wolfstar

9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Democratic presidential contender John Kerry, his running mate John Edwards and 21 other US senators this week called on Colombian President Alvaro Uribe to break ties between the Colombian army and the country's right-wing paramilitaries.

"We appreciate your commitment to establishing a secure future for Colombians and understand the difficult and complex challenges you face," the 23 senators told Uribe in a letter dated July 26, made available to AFP on Wednesday.

However, said the letter, "we remain deeply concerned about the continued levels of violence directed at the civilian population."

The letter, whose signatories were all Democrats except for Vermont independent James Jeffords, a converted Republican, urged Uribe to follow the recommendations of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCHR) in dealing with violence in his country.

"The most urgent UNHCHR recommendation is to cut ties between the army and paramilitary forces engaged in abuses, by suspending, investigating and vigorously prosecuting officials engaged in such collaboration," said the letter.

"As you know, addressing these abuses requires impartial and effective justice," it said.

"The UN also raises important points regarding the vulnerability of human rights defenders, journalists and union leaders. Progress in investigating and prosecuting threats and attacks against such leaders is essential," said the letter.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: auc; colombia; columbia; democrat; democratic; foreign; john; kerry; kerryforeignpolicy; notcolumbia; policy; rightwing
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A foretaste of Kerry's foreign policy:

1. The UN is all good.

2. We will meddle where Kofi wants us to meddle.

3. The "right wing" is all bad. They must be opposed everywhere.

This letter is also a reminder that Kerry strongly supported the communists in Nicaragua in the 1980's.

1 posted on 07/28/2004 12:05:18 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar

Kerry is obsessed with interfering in the internal functions of South American countries.


2 posted on 07/28/2004 12:08:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
TerriKerry is obsessed with interfering in the internal functions of South American countries
3 posted on 07/28/2004 12:13:54 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Wolfstar
"we remain deeply concerned about the continued levels of violence directed at the civilian population."

Jimmy Carter's policy visa vi El Salvadore all over again.

Thank God Castro is getting to old to take advantage of this nonsense for too much longer...

4 posted on 07/28/2004 12:14:47 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin; My2Cents; onyx; doodlelady
I've had my fun about the convention. Time to get serious again. Here's some excerpts from an AP news story yesterday about Columbia. Notice that, to Kerry-Edwards and others American Leftist senators, only the "right-wing" paramilitaries are bad. Not a word about the Marxists rebels.

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BOGOTA, Colombia - Colombian President Alvaro Uribe ordered his troops to launch a rescue operation if they locate a Roman Catholic bishop being held by Marxist rebels in jungle-covered mountains.

Hundreds of counterinsurgency forces searched the northwestern Casanare region Monday for signs of Misael Vacca Ramirez, the Bishop of Yopal. He was seized Sunday by members of the National Liberation Army, or ELN, the smaller of Colombia's two main rebel groups.

Vacca Ramirez has been involved in peace efforts between the government, leftist rebels and right-wing paramilitary groups battling for control of the oil-rich Casanare and Boyaca regions.

The ELN has been waging a 40-year-old war along with the larger Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, to topple the government and establish a Marxist-style state. The conflict claims an estimated 3,500 lives every year.

5 posted on 07/28/2004 12:15:25 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Wolfstar

Kerry wants Colombia's left-wing communist factions to win.


6 posted on 07/28/2004 12:16:07 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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To: Wolfstar

7 posted on 07/28/2004 12:16:34 PM PDT by Helms (Kill the Geico Gecco Now ! Then the E-Loan Girl ! Then the Ditech Guy!)
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To: Wolfstar

It was leaked. Kerry's campaign never approved the release of this document.


8 posted on 07/28/2004 12:18:29 PM PDT by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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To: Wolfstar

Our current policy in Colombia has made enormous progress, after Clinton's policy virtually turned the country over to FARC (creating the need for the paramilitaries, since Colombia's own military could do nothing to protect its citizens). The paramilitaries are disarming at record rates right now, although various foreign NGOs are objecting to the amnesty being offered them.

The same amnesty is available to FARC members, btw, and some of them have taken advantage of it - but I think they're holding out to see what happens in our elections. If Bush gets reelected, their goose is cooked and you can look for many more of them to take advantage of the amnest; and at that point, the remaining paramilitaries will do the same.


9 posted on 07/28/2004 12:44:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: Wolfstar
And what does JF'nK have to say about THESE leaders????
10 posted on 07/28/2004 12:45:49 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Wolfstar

What about the Sudan? Does he not care about Africa? His wife is from Africa, right?


11 posted on 07/28/2004 12:55:39 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Shove it John and John!)
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To: pghkevin
It was leaked.

Mustabeen a Republican leaker. Quick, let's investigate.

12 posted on 07/28/2004 12:59:24 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: OXENinFLA
That looks like Tom Harkin next to Kerry and Sandanista Daniel Ortega.....


13 posted on 07/28/2004 1:15:45 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: dennisw
That looks like Tom Harkin next to Kerry and Sandanista Daniel Ortega.....

Since you made that observation, the first time I saw that photo, I thought the woman looked like Katherine Harris.

14 posted on 07/28/2004 1:48:09 PM PDT by StriperSniper ("Ronald Reagan, the Founding Father of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy." - Mark Levin 6/8/04)
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To: Wolfstar

We had friends from Colombia with us last weekend (we used to live there), and they were very very pro-Uribe. He is absolutely no-nonsense on trying to make it a safer place. They say it's much better now than what it's been in years.

AND, by the way, this should never be indexed under "Columbia" since the country is COLOMBIA. Yes, I'm screaming.


15 posted on 07/28/2004 1:51:19 PM PDT by Ray'sBeth
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To: StriperSniper

She's a mystery woman.


16 posted on 07/28/2004 2:06:28 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: dennisw
That looks like Tom Harkin next to Kerry and Sandanista Daniel Ortega.....

You are correct..

17 posted on 07/28/2004 2:36:25 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: livius; Wolfstar

The paramilitaries were formed because the military and the government were on the defensive. The army couldn't even protect themselves, much less the people. There have been several high-profile slaughters of police and soldiers even during peace talks, maybe especially during peace talks. The FARC loved humiliating peace envoys by having a huge slaughter occur during a well publicized visit. So private Colombians organized the "Self Defense" units to take the fight to the FARC.

The military, at least until recently, used the paras as shock troops, to "pacify" an area before they would dare to enter it.

The work we have done with the military over the last couple of years seems to be making the paras less necessary, and if Bush manages to get reelected, I expect to see the country being progressively taken back from the FARC. You will remember that during the last half of the nineties the FARC held an autonomous region the size of Switzerland with the acquiescence of the government, where the army dared not go. No longer.

If Kerry wins, expect to see Colombia blackmailed to prosecute the paras for war crimes, ignoring the fact that FARC lives by assassination and kidnapping and drug running, and fear only the paras.


18 posted on 07/28/2004 2:36:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I am really keeping the fingers and toes crossed for a Bush win, not only for the US, but for Colombia. My work frequently brings me into contact with the situation there (although I have never been to Colombia) and I have always felt that the country was totally betrayed by Clinton, whose policies resulted in giving away that area the size of Switzerland that you mentioned.

Now the people actually seem to have some hope of having a normal national life again, and I think there is a very positive feeling there - but as you say, this will all vanish if Kerry is elected.


19 posted on 07/28/2004 2:48:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Soon to be published

20 posted on 07/28/2004 3:12:25 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Ray'sBeth
AND, by the way, this should never be indexed under "Columbia" since the country is COLOMBIA. Yes, I'm screaming.

Don't scream. It's a typo. We all make 'em from time to time. I'll see if I can correct it. If not, there are worse things...

21 posted on 07/28/2004 3:14:34 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: livius; marron; My2Cents; onyx; Howlin; PhiKapMom; doodlelady
...this will all vanish if Kerry is elected.

We must work very hard between now and Nov. 2 to make sure that doesn't happen. I've been having a great deal of fun lampooning the Dem convention this week. But soon the real work of this election season starts.

22 posted on 07/28/2004 3:19:48 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Neenah
NEW YORK TIMES bestselling author Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson in his new book RECKLESS DISREGARD, details one of the claimed Kerry reenactments for film:

"On February 28, 1969, now in charge of PCF 94, Kerry came under fire from an enemy location on the shore. The crew's gunner returned fire, hitting and wounding the lone gunman. Kerry directed the boat to charge the enemy position. Beaching his boat, Kerry jumped off, chased the wounded insurgent behind a thatched hutch, and killed him. Kerry and his crew returned within days, armed with a Super 8 video camera he had purchased at the post exchange at Cam Ranh Bay, and reenacted the skirmish on film."

..........***deep breath***

23 posted on 07/28/2004 3:24:29 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Neenah
"I've only been married to him for 9 years, I really don't know him that well "

Teresa Heinz-Kerry in interview (reported on FOX Special Report With Brit Hume )

7-28-04

24 posted on 07/28/2004 3:29:56 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Ray'sBeth

A friend of mine is from Bogota. He's a college student and musician, typically idealistic and liberal, and even he thinks Uribe should be allowed to stay in office. Funny how those who aren't there think they can tell those who are what to do.


25 posted on 07/28/2004 3:36:00 PM PDT by drew (fear of a liberal planet)
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To: Wolfstar

A friend of mine was kidnapped and killed by Columbian marxist thugs so I have a BIG problem with this. So will a lot of other Americans.


26 posted on 07/28/2004 4:20:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Wolfstar

Response the Colombian President, Alvaro Uribe, should give to Kerry-

Shove it.


27 posted on 07/28/2004 4:29:31 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: plain talk
So will a lot of other Americans.

Yes, I think so (at least, I hope so) — if the word gets out into the mainstream. In the 1980's, when Ed Asner became so viciously outspoken about the situation in Nicaragua, the ratings for the Mary Tyler Moore Show plummeted, and Asner's career has never been the same.

28 posted on 07/28/2004 4:34:53 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Shove it.

I agree. Unfortunately, like most national leaders, he's probably being very cautious about offending Kerry on the chance (heaven forbid) that he becomes our next president.

29 posted on 07/28/2004 4:37:03 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Neenah

BTTT Get that book out there!


30 posted on 07/28/2004 4:50:37 PM PDT by Libertina (Photoshop is our friend - just ask John Bunny-Suit Kerry ;))
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To: Wolfstar
"Don't scream. It's a typo. We all make 'em from time to time. I'll see if I can correct it. If not, there are worse things..."

. . .for sure; like not having you post this story at all.

Thanks for info; update; and reminder as to the 'who' and 'what' of johneffenkerry.

31 posted on 07/28/2004 8:22:09 PM PDT by cricket ( Keep your head. . .Vote Republican)
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"In the 1980's, when Ed Asner became so viciously outspoken about the situation in Nicaragua, the ratings for the Mary Tyler Moore Show plummeted, and Asner's career has never been the same."

. . .think 'government education' has changed a few things. I just hope that there of enough voters who still care about the truth of our enemies.

32 posted on 07/28/2004 8:24:45 PM PDT by cricket ( Keep your head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: Wolfstar

"However, said the letter, "we remain deeply concerned about the continued levels of violence directed at the civilian population."

What he really is saying is "we remain deeply concerned about the continued levels of violence directed at the MARXIST REVOLUTIONARY population.


33 posted on 07/28/2004 8:44:39 PM PDT by RepublicanHippy
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To: cricket
Thanks for info; update; and reminder as to the 'who' and 'what' of johneffenkerry.

You're welcome, Cricket. In certain respects, Kerry would be worse than either Clinton or Carter. At least Clinton isn't an idealogue Leftist. Carter, for all his many faults, at least was hemmed in considerably (though by no means entirely) by the realities of his times. The Soviet Union still existed then, and economic times were bad. Kerry is a true Leftist idealogue with little to stop him from selling us out to the international Left (i.e., UN and Euros).

34 posted on 07/28/2004 9:27:25 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: cricket
I just hope that there of enough voters who still care about the truth of our enemies.

Oh, me too. I'm really sort of mentally holding my breath until the election. The prospect of a Kerry presidency really has me spooked.

35 posted on 07/28/2004 9:30:13 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: RepublicanHippy

Absolutely.


36 posted on 07/28/2004 9:31:10 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Ray'sBeth

wher'd ya live there?

I spent a lot of time there myself and used to know one of the main paras in question....Victor Caranza of Muzo fame.


37 posted on 07/28/2004 11:36:50 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Wolfstar

Now #4 on Amazon....


due for release on Sept. 25
38 posted on 07/28/2004 11:39:35 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: livius

Well said.


39 posted on 07/29/2004 8:18:24 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: Wolfstar

More Proof from the Komrade Kerry Kamp showing that Komrade Kerry is the true Manchurian Candidate!


40 posted on 07/29/2004 1:56:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (NASA photos show w/o a doubt: Kerry is not a rocket scientist. Kerry is the Wrong Stuff!)
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To: Wolfstar

OMG! Uribe has been the best hope for a solution to Columbia's problems.

Ketchhup toyboy to the Commie rescue again.


41 posted on 07/29/2004 1:56:21 PM PDT by eleni121 (Thank God fo John Ashcroft: Four more years!)
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To: Wolfstar
John Kerry is a freakin' dinosaur. Colombia has been besieged for decades by brutal terrorists, and the bottom line is, Kerry is anxious to see that the government and military of Colombia respect the human rights of those terrorists. Kerry does not get it. He does not understand the problem in the first place, and yet he arrogantly seeks to dictate a solution.

Will he be concerned for the human rights of Bin Laden and Al-Zarqawi?

Answer: you bet he will. You better believe he will.

42 posted on 07/29/2004 2:55:01 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("My theory of the Cold War is that we win and they lose." Ronald Reagan, 1977)
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To: Grampa Dave

Absolutely. Unfortunately, this news is getting buried because of the convention. But it's a major signpost to the kind of foreign policy we could expect under a Kerry admin (saints preserve us).


43 posted on 07/29/2004 2:57:37 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: eleni121

Kerry is a true Leftist ideologue.


44 posted on 07/29/2004 2:58:49 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

As I've mentioned to other FReepers, earlier in the week I had a great deal of fun lampooning the Dem convention. But with this news yesterday, I decided it was time to get serious. A Kerry presidency would be deadly serious, emphasis on deadly — for us and for a lot of people around the world who oppose the Leftists in their countries.


45 posted on 07/29/2004 3:01:31 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Wolfstar
A Kerry presidency would be deadly serious, emphasis on deadly — for us and for a lot of people around the world who oppose the Leftists in their countries.

Amen to that. Kerry, for all of his pretense of being worldly, is naive to the point of being provincial on international issues like this. Kerry does not get it.

46 posted on 07/29/2004 10:31:50 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("My theory of the Cold War is that we win and they lose." Ronald Reagan, 1977)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Whether or not he gets it, throughout his adult lifetime, with the exception of his brief tour in Vietnam, Kerry has consistently supported Marxists/communists and opposed those fighting against such regimes.


47 posted on 07/30/2004 10:03:40 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: Wolfstar
The prospect of a Kerry presidency really has me spooked

And well it should. This time he'll beach the boat that holds our children and our country's future.

I am so convinced that this guy is a commie NUT-CASE [he really is nuts], that I really believe if he wins, that it will mean the end of the United States morally, economically, and most likely, physically. Not to mention what will happen to us as individuals, especially white Christians and our families, who are hated by the marxists as the evil of evils, and the biggest obstacle to their plans.
~Indie

48 posted on 07/31/2004 1:34:19 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Indie

Indie, I agree with you in all respects except one: I don't for one moment think Leftist true-believers like Kerry are nuts. That let's them off the hook way too easily. No, they know precisely what they're doing when the support Marxists, and when they attempt to weaken the United States.


49 posted on 07/31/2004 3:05:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Our Founders' bedrock vision: INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, not the false equality of the statist collective.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
Kerry does not get it. He does not understand the problem in the first place, and yet he arrogantly seeks to dictate a solution.

Oh, but he does get it! He full well understands that the target of the "right-wing paramilitary" is the Marxist revolutionary FARC.

And, just as he supported Castro, Ortega and the Sandinistas, Kerry supports the Marxist rebels in Colombia.

The man has never met a Communist he didn't like. Communism is one issue Kerry has never flip-flopped on...

50 posted on 07/31/2004 3:18:17 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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