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Mark Steyn: Terminator or girlie man
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 07/31/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/29/2004 7:55:47 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
But, honestly, the idea that you can take a four-year intermission from the jihad because everyone’s feeling a bit stressed out is delusional. Do Sullivan and the other moulting hawks believe Iran is going to be sporting enough to go along with it? ‘Right-ho, old chap, we’ll see you back here in 2008 for full-scale Armageddon. Enjoy the break.’

I am certainly feeling tired of all the non-stop terrorism in Iraq but I keep remembering that GW and Rumsfeld have repeatedly said that this will be a long, hard slog. Modern Americans are somewhat short on patience it seems to me. We have to learn as a nation how to stay the course and stop seeing each terrorist incident as a separate event like a plane crash if we are to avoid an escalating war inflicted upon us.

61 posted on 07/29/2004 5:18:13 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Pokey78
It’s a way of nominally continuing the war without being warlike.

That's IT! That's what all the complaining about "unilateralism" and "macho cowboy posturing" and such is about! They know we're at war, they just can't stand all that nasty fighting.

62 posted on 07/29/2004 5:30:11 PM PDT by irv
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To: Alberta's Child
The point AC is that we need to concentrate on where we are weak. We are weak with the female voter, be it WASP or minority.

We don't have to pander to anyone or change or standards...we just need to make sure the female voter gets the truth about who W is and what he will do for all Americans.

Black women may be a lost cause to the hustlers and hucksters like Sharpton, Kennedy, Queezie, Jackson, et al but everyone else is up for grabs are far as I'm concerned.

We have to get the message to them and then let the chips fall where they may.

63 posted on 07/29/2004 7:59:21 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: Pokey78
But according to Andrew Sullivan, embracing Kerry in the Sunday Times

Not that there's anything wrong with that (no surprises there) --as long as it stops there and doesn't escalate to:

that’s precisely the appeal of Senator Nuance: ‘His basic message to Americans is: let’s return to normalcy. The radicalism of the past four years needs tempering. We need to consolidate the nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan, before any new adventures against, say, Iran....’

64 posted on 07/29/2004 9:13:42 PM PDT by Watery Tart ("I'd rather have my husband alive than that money”…. “Now shove it." Teresa Kerry-Heinz)
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To: Pokey78

Boy, every word right on the money. Nov. is put up or shut up time. Kerry and four years of sloth will get hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans killed.


65 posted on 07/29/2004 9:19:08 PM PDT by hershey
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To: eureka!

Sobering, insightful, scary. Steyn doesn't nuance, and Nov.'s election is nothing less than life or death for America and western civilization.


66 posted on 07/29/2004 9:27:33 PM PDT by hershey
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To: evad

President Bush has more than 50% of the female vote.

Only a girlie man and/or a misogynist would assume the majority of women in the USA would prefer a girlie man for POTUS.






67 posted on 07/29/2004 9:39:10 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Pokey78

Steyn is just amazing. He can make you laugh to the point of tears and simultaneously illuminate an important issue. He's an immensely talented writer.


68 posted on 07/29/2004 9:51:22 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Zack Nguyen

Indeed. Education only magnifies their evil and makes it more potent and destructive than it might have otherwise been.


69 posted on 07/29/2004 9:57:03 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: milestogo

Metrosexual Superpower. A completely oxymoronic term.


70 posted on 07/29/2004 10:00:56 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Pokey78

Bump. Oh, for a world of sensible men like Steyn.


71 posted on 07/29/2004 10:41:47 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: sarasmom
Only a girlie man and/or a misogynist would assume the majority of women in the USA would prefer a girlie man for POTUS.

That comment was uncalled for SM.

In addition I would be interested in what factual basis you have for your following statement..
"President Bush has more than 50% of the female vote. "

72 posted on 07/30/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: evad
Your #10
"I dunno if it's soccer moms, gun totin' moms or school marms, one thing is for sure ....it FEMALE.
If TEAM Bush doesn't find a way to win 50% of the female vote, we'll go down just like we did twice with the toon."

screamed out for my comment.

The "factual basis" for my statement is my own observations and discussions with other women, coupled with the 2002 election results.
73 posted on 07/30/2004 5:30:24 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
screamed out for my comment.

Fair enough..glad you had a good scream and thanks for clarifying for me that I'm a girlie man and/or a misogynist.. I still think ad hominem attacks are uncalled for in a situation where nothing was stated but truth and facts.

The "factual basis" for my statement is my own observations and discussions with other women, coupled with the 2002 election results.

I certainly would like to believe this but that would mean that somehow we've picked up over 11 percentage points since the 2000 election.

Wonder what changed the female voter's minds?
Do you actually have a source other than conversations with personal friends to substantiate that the 2002 election results had the women in a majority on the Republican side?

74 posted on 07/30/2004 6:04:59 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: Pokey78

Excellent article! I only wish I could write as effectively as Mr. Steyn.


75 posted on 07/30/2004 6:15:22 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: evad
It is certainly telling that you think the "female voters mind" is any different from the "male voters mind".

Let not your heart be troubled!
Bush looks way better than Kerry in any flight suit!/sarcasm//

And just what is up with this strangely nuanced "we" crap?
Last I heard, mere women receive more than a polite welcome in the Republican party, WE are actually an integral part of it, after all.

You must be waaaay on the outer edges of the big tent, not to have clued into that fact.

So, are you just confused, a troll, girlie man, weirdo or just a garden variety misogynist?
76 posted on 07/30/2004 6:59:18 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
Whew!!..

You win.

I've tried to be civil but it's clear you are not rational.

Seek help.....
immediately!!!!!!

77 posted on 07/30/2004 7:02:53 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: sarasmom
and oh by the way..
You have yet to provide any evidence for any of your claims.
78 posted on 07/30/2004 7:04:17 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: evad

Troll and/or Misogynist!

LMAO!

Only a liberal misogynist thinks women are not capable of making rational decisions!
Have a nice...day.


79 posted on 07/30/2004 7:18:51 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
Troll and/or Misogynist! LOL

Have a nice...day.

Somehow those two terms don't seem to go well with have a nice day and you really like to talk trashmouth, don't you? That's three times now. Why don't you go for four...and be more colorful and original. Come up with a new invective. Sara needs to wash her mom's mouth out with soap.

Again..for your own good and those around you...seek help.

And if you ever get the time to actually post something half sensible, provide some evidence for your spurious claims.

80 posted on 07/30/2004 7:35:05 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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