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To: jimbo123
Information that some explosive materials may not be hot enough to melt the steel underpinnings of a building, and a reference to what materials might heat to 2,700 degrees.

Oh how they would love to replicate 9/11. I don't think they expected the WTC to come down, but when it did it instantly became a model for future "projects."

19 posted on 08/01/2004 1:56:05 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: luvbach1; Dog

yes, but a jet loaded with fuel is a rather unique delivery system. at least for the manhattan targets - its hard to drive an 18 wheeler gasoline tanker truck into a building - unless you do it at 4AM. the Newark or Long Island City buildings are another matter.

I don't know, why am I getting a vibe that we have already thwarted this attack, and this alert is essentially the epilogue? maybe its just wishful thinking.


21 posted on 08/01/2004 2:00:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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I think that's why they were working with the Tanzanian bomber prior to his capture in Pakistan last week. Info on Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani:

-"Ghailani is a terrorist facilitator and an operative," said an American intelligence official. "He's a very bad man, and his arrest is good news."

-Mr. Ghailani, who is believed to be about 30, was indicted in federal court in Manhattan in 1998 on murder and other charges connected to the embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. The attacks killed more than 200 people, including 12 Americans.

-Ghailani was responsible for obtaining the parts needed to construct the bomb, including the steel cylinders, TNT and detonators, another convicted bomber, Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, reportedly told the FBI.

-Ghailani was charged in a U.S. indictment with buying the truck used to carry the bomb that exploded outside the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania's capital, Dar es Salaam.

-Ghailani is alleged to have been one of those who bought the truck to deliver the Dar es Salaam bomb and materials for making that bomb. He is also alleged to have helped load materials into the truck. Six days before the bombings, Ghailani checked into Nairobi's Hilltop Hilton, where prosecutors say he met with alleged Kenya embassy bombers Mohammed Sadeek Odeh and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed next day. The day before the bombings, he was believed to have fled to Pakistan with co-defendant Abdullah Ahmed Abudallah. Ghailani was indicted for this crime on December 16, 1998.


25 posted on 08/01/2004 2:13:45 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: luvbach1
" I don't think they expected the WTC to come down,"

I'm not so sure of that. Mohammed Atta was an Urban Planning student in Hamburg with a lot of architectural and structural studies. Also, it was public knowledge that WTC was built during the Great Asbestos Scare and that the fire-proofing of the lower floors was skipped on the upper floors due to environmental fears. It's very possible Atta knew this. Were the floors they hit selected for that purpose?

48 posted on 08/01/2004 4:01:45 PM PDT by cookcounty ("NIXON sent me to Vietnam!!!" --JfK, lying about his 1968 arrival in-country UNDER PRESIDENT LBJ.)
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