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Intel Leading to Alert Hike
Fox news ^ | 8/1/04

Posted on 08/01/2004 2:40:38 PM PDT by finnman69

Intel Leading to Alert Hike

Sunday, August 01, 2004

WASHINGTON — The government provided details Sunday of new intelligence it had obtained that led to the increased threat level against financial institutions, including several specific buildings.

A senior intelligence official described the details only on condition of anonymity. He said it was the most extraordinary detail he had seen in 24 years of intelligence work.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: intelligence; ny; orangealert5
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OK, this is scary stuff. The bad guys are looking into knocking down skyscrapers.
1 posted on 08/01/2004 2:40:39 PM PDT by finnman69
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— The flow of pedestrians outside one building — 14 people per minute midweek on each side of the sidewalks, or 28 per minute.

— Information that some explosive materials may not be hot enough to melt the steel underpinnings of a building, and a reference to what materials might heat to 2,700 degrees.

— Suggestions for building reconnaissance, such as a window table at a nearby coffee shop.

— Details about specific security checkpoints inside buildings, including a tidbit that people turned left after passing one checkpoint.

— Places to make contact with building employees.

—Construction of some buildings that might prevent their collapse.

— Locations of police stations, fire departments, schools and hospitals in the vicinity of the targets.

— Changes in day-to-day security, including lessened security on Sundays and days when elevators don't operate.


2 posted on 08/01/2004 2:40:49 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
Something is definitely in the air. You can feel it. We live outside of NY and you can just sense something is coming. No doubt NY is one of their targets. They HATE Bush and they view NY as symbolic of capitalism. They want to kill our economy and get Bush unseated.
3 posted on 08/01/2004 2:45:55 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Are you referring to Al Qeida or the "hate-Bush" Democrats?


4 posted on 08/01/2004 2:48:58 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: nmh

IMHO....this will only help Bush if they try it.


5 posted on 08/01/2004 2:51:03 PM PDT by goodnesswins (FREEDOM is a terrible thing to waste.....and it AIN'T FREE!!!!!!)
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To: goodnesswins

I agree with you. Otherwise why would Howard the Dean start screaming that this is a political dirty trick to take attention away from Kerry. I was actually GLAD to hear him say that because it exposes just how desperate they really are.


6 posted on 08/01/2004 2:54:43 PM PDT by EggsAckley (.....John Edwards: The political equivalent of breast implants.....)
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To: goodnesswins

"IMHO....this will only help Bush if they try it."

I used to think that ... but I can hear kerry now - GWB did NOT protect YOU again. He'll rip GWB a new one and people are stupid. They just might buy it.


7 posted on 08/01/2004 2:58:22 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I DO live in NYC, and you're being alarmist.

(Sorry I can't stay longer, I have to finish saran-wrapping my bathroom window...)

8 posted on 08/01/2004 2:59:45 PM PDT by nycmusic
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To: rebel_yell2

"Are you referring to Al Qeida or the "hate-Bush" Democrats?"

Aq but it wouldn't shock me if the hatriots, er Demoncrats helped them do it.


9 posted on 08/01/2004 2:59:58 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: finnman69; All

The article is unclear. Is that a list of things the terrorists are chattering about?


10 posted on 08/01/2004 3:01:18 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: nycmusic

"I DO live in NYC, and you're being alarmist.
(Sorry I can't stay longer, I have to finish saran-wrapping my bathroom window...)"

I'll include you in my prayers. Be even more aware and stay safe. We need MORE conservatives; not less.


11 posted on 08/01/2004 3:01:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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What is amazing to me ....is this was all committed to paper.

Someone actually wrote all this down and we got our hands on it.

There has only been one recent capture and that was the AQ biggie in Pakistan....his nickname is Foopie.

When they raided his safehouse he had a room set up with a computer server and a active computer network. They also found world maps in English....Urdu and Arabic.

It was a AQ command center.

12 posted on 08/01/2004 3:01:53 PM PDT by Dog (Edwards threatening Al Qaeda is like Pee Wee Herman threatening Lucca Brazzi.)
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To: goodnesswins
IMHO....this will only help Bush if they try it. I agree. The country will rally around The Prez. Howard Dean has already been on ABC News today saying this is "politics" on the part of the Bush Administration.
13 posted on 08/01/2004 3:02:52 PM PDT by no dems (Stupid people get on my nerves; for real.)
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To: nmh

"They HATE Bush and they view NY as symbolic of capitalism. They want to kill our economy and get Bush unseated."

They definitely want to get John Kerry elected, because they know Kerry is a weenie, who will wet his pants in a rush to "crawl on his knees to them and beg their forgiveness".


14 posted on 08/01/2004 3:04:05 PM PDT by punster
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Citicorp Center in NYC is very vulnerable.

It is architecturally sound, I am sure, but has 4 very conspicuous stilts that it stands on. I dunno how it could stand if 2 or 3 of those stils were destroyed or severly comprimised.


15 posted on 08/01/2004 3:05:14 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY; Coop; Cap Huff; Boot Hill; blam; jeffers
, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani

A number of computer discs were obtained at the time of his capture (along with several other people), which would appear to contain details of potential targets and methods of attack.

16 posted on 08/01/2004 3:09:44 PM PDT by Dog (Edwards threatening Al Qaeda is like Pee Wee Herman threatening Lucca Brazzi.)
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To: HitmanNY
Citicorp Center in NYC is very vulnerable.

It is architecturally sound, I am sure, but has 4 very conspicuous stilts that it stands on. I dunno how it could stand if 2 or 3 of those stils were destroyed or severly comprimised.

Architecture

The Citicorp Center

Citicorp Center, "One of the most successful urban schemes in New York in the 1970's"(Dennis Sharp), is located at 601 Lexington Avenue, between 53rd and 54th Streets. The following article is dedicated to this 280 meter high structure.

The Citigroup center, as the Citicorp Center is also referred to, was designed by Hugh Stubbins & Assoc and was finished in the 1977. This 59-floor building with 102,200 m2 of usable office space is recognized throughout the world, due to its unusual 45-degree roof originally planned as a solar collector. The curtain wall panels are lined with double-glazed reflective glass and heat-reflective aluminum panels enclosed in aluminum frames. In 1978, William LeMessurier discovered that the buildings bolted joints were too weak to resist the wind loads in New York. A construction group was hired to try and repair the fragile structure over the next three months. The document showing the skyscraper's mistakes was called "Project SERENE" and stands for "Special Engineering Review of Events Nobody Envisioned". This mistake was hidden from public eyes for nearly 20 years. Source

17 posted on 08/01/2004 3:10:29 PM PDT by MediaMole (Microsoft math: 1 inch = 2.4 centimeters)
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To: punster

YOu got it!


18 posted on 08/01/2004 3:13:06 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MediaMole

I was that in a PBS documentary about 5 years ago, I think. Creepy!

In any case, there is nothing SERENE about an unforseeable event like a terrorist strike. Not good!


19 posted on 08/01/2004 3:13:09 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Dog

McInerny on Fox is saying that the capture of this goober is the source of the detail. Hard facts that it is? No. Speculation on his part.


20 posted on 08/01/2004 3:18:56 PM PDT by L`enn
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