Posted on 08/02/2004 3:58:04 PM PDT by Renfield
Spoken in the stentorian, authoritarian voice of a true Inquisitor of the OHDI. You have unwittingly proved the author's point, sirrah...
the infowarrior
But that's like saying Christian astronomers twist & turn to try to fit God into their view of the motion of the planets, and in fact it's an awkward fit. After all, astronomy is a convenient way to explain the motion of the planets while giving them the ability to thumb their noses at all those hard-working angels who toil, 24/7, to keep the planets in their ellipses where they belong.
Shhhh.....!!!!!!! The astronomy guild does not want that information out yet. Would cause panic in the streets. LOL!
It's a darn good thing those angels haven't gone on strike. <shudder>
What's a "missing link", exactly?
Go back to post 39 and start over. The original comment was: "Someone has observed the rise of a new specie [sic] in the lab? Funny, I missed that bit of news." I provided two links. That's all. Now you are screeching about my alleged "proof, in the lab, of evolution!" You are raving about "a huge shot of faith, or at the very least, wishful thinking."
I have no idea what you're talking about. And to be brutally candid, neither do you. But it's been interesting chatting with you.
Regarding your question why would God wait for a couple of billion years - that is our time frame. For God, even a trillion years is nothing. He created time.
Regarding your question about relationships - it is arrogant of us humans to think God's relationship to us is more important than God's relationship to other creations. Including slime mold.
Regarding your second paragraph, God doesn't lie. People do. I'm sure you follow what I'm saying.
Best wishes,
Regarding your question why would God wait for a couple of billion years - that is our time frame. For God, even a trillion years is nothing. He created time.
Regarding your question about relationships - it is arrogant of us humans to think God's relationship to us is more important than God's relationship to other creations. Including slime mold.
Regarding your second paragraph, God doesn't lie. People do. I'm sure you follow what I'm saying.
Best wishes,
Missing link is the early terminology for what they now term 'intermediate steps'. IE a bat with no wings, and then multiple stages of the bat with non-working wings, then shazam, wings. It isn't that they just exist in small numbers. They don't exist at all. As the writeup notes, there's been a virtual explosion in the number of fossils available to these guys. They keep finding more and more new species; but, in the booming conversation of bones, there is no record of their missing links. The whole idea was a nutjob theory to begin with. I'm sure if they'd known then what they know now about how the body's systems function and rely on one another and how the systems safegaurd against mutation, Darwin would have kept his pie-hole shut or maybe just wrote a poor grade science fiction book.. which is about what it amounts to anyway. That this fantastical crap gets taught in face of the facts is astounding.
I disagree with you on two points.
Evolution does not blaspheme God. It challenges the Bible and Koran, but does NOT challenge God. I don't accept the Koranic and Biblical version of creation - so I don't have to tell you how plants requiring photosynthesis can survive for eons without the sun. You are mixing your hypothesis - you are the one who believes that plants predated the Sun. I don't.
God is too magnificient to be tied down to one religion's view point.
Yes, it most certainly does challenge God. Either it happened the way we're told it did in scripture, or scripture is a lie and thusly God who inspired it becomes a liar. It is a direct challenge to both the scripture and God. Evidently you know just enough about scripture to be dangerous or a bad liar and I don't know which. As far as the plants predating the sun, that's scripture. I don't pick and choose what scripture to follow.
As far as your commentary on God's magnificence, if you revered it so much, you might have more respect for what is His word. I don't know what group you're pandering for; but, it's not gaining you any credibility with me.
That's because it is entirely a religious debate on both sides.
I don't care if I gain credibility with you or not. It is completely immaterial and irrelevant.
I have read the Bible, Koran, Vedas (Hindu, if you don't know) and Dharmapada (Buddhist, for those ignorant). Evolution and Big Bang challenge the first two. Not the last two.
People who are ignorant of ALL religions of the world should either take the trouble to read them, or accept the reality that they ignorant and live in the spiritual darkness of a cave.
Don't confuse "scripture" with "Biblical scripture". There are scriptures in the world that suport evolution and the big bang. Take the reincarnations of Vishnu for example - fish, turtle, boar, small primate, walking primate, man. Get the point?
Just because it is your scripture does not mean it is either right or reality.
I think it fascinating that so much of creation science involves bludgeoning others with the willful ignorance of the creationist. The major lines of evidence are summarized in this article, 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution. A frequent creationist reaction to that article is that it's too big to read and a high-level summary is needed. That IS the high-level summary of many different and largely independent lines of evidence leading to the same conclusion, that all life on Earth has common ancestry. (And, no, the evidence for "common design" would in most cases NOT be the same.)
There's plenty more, but we'll see what you do with that first.
Web pages about transitional fossils are about the evidence for a theory. When creationists say, "There is no evidence," the proof of their assertion is that no one can make them see the evidence. This is an intellectually bankrupt science indeed! Cretin Science!
You miss the larger point. The first one is loaded with fulfilled prophecy which tends to give it credibility. Credibility, which the others lack. To my knowledge, the Koran has no prophecy in it - much less any that's been fulfilled. The Hindu religions are pantheon - like the old Roman religions - gods for this and that. There isn't much going for their stuff either.
And I don't confuse Biblical scripture with "scripture" as a general term. Biblical Scripture is the word of God. Everyone elses pretty much makes a pretense but is otherwise left wanting.
Evolution and Big Bang challenge the first two. Not the last two.
Gee, do you think?
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When Creationists say there is no evidence, it is because there is no evidence. None. Evolutionists have been scouring the planet for such evidence driving themselves batty to no avail; because transitional fossils don't exist. This is because transitional critters don't exist and never did. But, there is no record of transitional forms. There never will be. And you guys can't bring yourselves to admit it because maintaining the great lie of science has become your life's work. If it turns out a lie, then your life is a lie. And by gum we can't have that, now can we. Get over it. We still love you. We just know your wrong and trying to handwring to save face.
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