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To: VadeRetro
When you say, and I quote, "A fully developed critter ain't a transition," you are making predictions for the theory of evolution which no one educated in the topic would make.

No, I'm positing an issue that you guys can't afford to posit because it lays your poker hand bare on the table for having nothing. You are artful dodgers and benefitting from years of obfuscation designed to protect the theory rather than allow weaknesses to be shown (ie the theory itself). This is why it's presented initially in classes as a theory, and they you go on to present every thing else in light of the theory as though the theory were fact. And people still refuse to believe it inspite of the indoctrination because it stinks to high heaven. And because you guys can't answer tough questions without making jerks of yourselves. It's built in. You guys are in the same mess the democrats are in and you don't have the sense to act like it. Thank you for that. It just makes others more determined to have done with all of you. We're all tired of the crap and tired of shovelling tax money at it. And the sooner we can defund this crap the better. Can I make my stand any more clear, or do you need me to tell you that supporting snake oil salesmen shouldn't be the business of government and that's why I see it's time for your grants to go..

315 posted on 08/03/2004 6:05:47 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc

"You guys are in the same mess the democrats are in and you don't have the sense to act like it."

You just nailed down this whole thing in one sentence. I wish I had made the comparison because you put into words my exact impression of this topic.

And the author took an entire LONG article to basically say the same thing!

Kudos!


317 posted on 08/03/2004 6:10:08 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: VadeRetro
From the article:
[Richard] Dawkins has written, "It is absolutely safe to say that, if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid, or insane...."

I wonder what Dawkins really thinks.

318 posted on 08/03/2004 6:11:10 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Since 28 Oct 1999, #26,303, over 193 threads posted, and somehow never suspended.)
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To: Havoc
No, I'm positing an issue that you guys can't afford to posit because it lays your poker hand bare on the table for having nothing.

No. No one from Darwin on ever said that a transitional is some kind of malformed freak. You can't use the "fully formed" nature of a thing to show that it's not an intermediate stage between one form and another. The population changes precisely because it is staying well adapted even as the environment changes. That IS the theory.

359 posted on 08/04/2004 6:37:28 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Havoc
Can I make my stand any more clear, or do you need me to tell you that supporting snake oil salesmen shouldn't be the business of government and that's why I see it's time for your grants to go..

I hope you have kids because I look forward to seeing your tax money used to indoctrinate them with the TOE.

At the end of the day, hick school boards full of inbred morons will make inroads against the teaching of the TOE. Fine with me, to tell you the truth. That just means there will be less competition for my kids when they're applying for good colleges.

After all, the world will always need fast food cashiers.

362 posted on 08/04/2004 6:46:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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