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To: A. Pole
Yes yerida is a problem. My own father left in 1956 for the States for economic reasons. Every time there is an economic downturn this happens.

Right now French Jews are coming to Israel in record numbers. With the economy rapidly improving and Palestinian violence being checked by the IDF and the security barrier people aren't leaving and aliyah is increasing again, even from the States.

Many Russian olim came to Israel for economic reasons in the first place. They were never Zionists and some failed to integrate themselves into Israeli culture. For them to leave isn't surprising, but the vast majority have stayed in Israel and I suspect that will never change.

This history of often violent ant-Semitism in Russia is a long one. I would like to believe that it is in the past, but I am cognisant enough of history to fear that these Russian Jews may flee to Israel once again.

4 posted on 08/04/2004 6:13:43 AM PDT by anotherview
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To: anotherview
This history of often violent ant-Semitism in Russia is a long one.

This issue is quite tricky - do you realize than no pogroms took place in Russia proper? They happened on the Ukraine.

The reason was old conflict between Jews and Ukranians caused by the system of arenda of XVII century in which Polish nobles gave Jewish overseers absolute power over serfs in exchange for high fees. The worst largest pogroms occured during the peasant revolt of Khmelnitsky when countless Jews and Poles perished.

6 posted on 08/04/2004 6:41:44 AM PDT by A. Pole (Major Kong: "Well, boys, I reckon this is it. Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Russkies.")
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To: anotherview
Actually most anti-semitism in Russian Empire was in Russian western Ukraine and Poland. Also, in 1920's Jews (as nationality) run majority of offices in Communist party...they and Latvians, Poles. Then in 1930s other Bolshaviks under Stalin kill them off and take power, then country is run by Georgians and Ukrainians...so it came in waves...as for religious Jews, the atheist communist jews of 1920s kill them as readily as they kill Orthodox christians...to cure SU of religion. Stalin continue such policy.

Present day Russia is different place for most part, especially from crap that western communist media print.

11 posted on 08/04/2004 7:51:06 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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