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Herpes Risk from Ancient Form of Circumcision * SCARRY *
Reuters, Yahoo News ^ | Wed Aug 4, 3:33 PM ET | SOURCE: Pediatrics, August 2004

Posted on 8/5/2004, 3:30:02 AM by the_gospel_of_thomas

Herpes Risk from Ancient Form of Circumcision

Wed Aug 4, 3:33 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Eight infants developed genital herpes following an ancient Jewish ritual of circumcision, highlighting the dangers associated with this procedure, researchers report.

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All of the infants underwent a form of circumcision in which the circumciser, or mohel, takes wine in his mouth and sucks the blood from the newly created wound, then spits the blood and wine mixture into a receptacle. The circumciser repeats this procedure, known as metzitzah, until the bleeding stops.

Currently, only a minority of mohels practice metzitzah, with most now opting for a suction device to remove blood from the wound, according to the report in the journal Pediatrics.

The eight infants developed genital herpes between 4 and 11 days after the procedure. Of four mohels who performed the circumcisions and agreed to be tested, all carried antibodies to herpes simplex virus type 1, indicating they were infected.

Herpes simplex virus type 1 is the strain that's the usual cause of oral herpes sores, but it can also cause genital infections.

These findings suggest that circumcisions that include metzitzah carry a "serious risk" for transmission of herpes from the mouths of circumcisers to the genitals of infants, lead author Dr. Benjamin Gesundheit of Ben-Gurion University in Israel and his colleagues write.

"The cultural process of replacing ancient customs by modern wound care has to be encouraged by a heightened awareness of this potentially life-threatening medical complication," they add.

After they developed genital herpes, 6 of the 8 infants received an intravenous infusion of acyclovir, an antiviral drug that is commonly used to treat herpes. Nonetheless, four of the infants experienced recurrent outbreaks of genital herpes.

In one infant, the herpes virus spread to the brain, causing long-term brain damage

The authors note that the virus can be secreted in saliva for several days to weeks and can appear in the saliva of people who show no symptoms of infection, or cold sore on the mouth, they note.

"We suspect, therefore, that this entity is underreported for cultural reasons and that the studies described here are only the 'tip of the iceberg' of the true incidence of the disease," they write.

Gesundheit and his colleagues add that, in 2002, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel okayed the use of suction devices to remove blood from the circumcision wound in situations where there is a risk of spreading disease.

"We support ritual circumcision but without oral metzitzah," the authors write.

SOURCE: Pediatrics, August 2004.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel
KEYWORDS: circumcision; herpes
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"We support ritual circumcision but without oral metzitzah," - "In one infant, the herpes virus spread to the brain, causing long-term brain damage " ... THAT is Scarry
1 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:30:03 AM by the_gospel_of_thomas
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

Mohels don't make a lot of money, but they make up for it in tips.


2 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:32:08 AM by asgardshill ("Jack Black - killing brain cells and making friends UNTIL 2004")
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

* SCARRY * circumcisions are the worst kind.


3 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:35:20 AM by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

wtf? o0


4 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:36:10 AM by Bogey78O (Kerry lied and if elected people will die.)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

Scarry and scary.


5 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:36:39 AM by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

"In one infant, the herpes virus spread to the brain, causing long-term brain damage"

WTF? Can this happen with other forms (? word?) of herpes?


6 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:38:51 AM by jocon307
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

I never heard from it.


7 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:40:23 AM by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: PA Engineer
from
8 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:40:50 AM by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

Verry scarry. I have a friend who was circumcised. He couldn't walk for a year.


9 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:42:10 AM by ladyjane
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

I'll be sure not to have this done in the unlikely event that I ever reproduce.


10 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:42:23 AM by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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This is what happens when through the brainwashing of our television ads - HERPES is no longer a VENERAL DISEASE - and there is no shame to be infected according to all those "beautiful people" in the ads.

If you LIE DOWN with DOGS, you will wake up with FLEAS!

Now -- to prove this point --- how many of you think I am sooo old fashioned that I say that VENERAL DISEASES are the results of filthy living and a lack of morals.

AIDS would have been a passing footnote in history IF morals were implemented ... no?

We had almost eliminated most *VD* until it became "cool" to be a slut (male or female).
11 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:42:57 AM by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

What part of the Jewish "Law" calls for performing a sexual act on an infant child ?

Any of the Jewish faith on this board know the origins?


12 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:45:06 AM by TheBattman (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

97% of the population carry type 1 herpes.


13 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:45:22 AM by Kirkwood
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To: ladyjane

yes but was he a baby? babies take about a year to walk whether or not they're circumcised :)


14 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:46:33 AM by arielb
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To: TheBattman

I come from an Orthodox family and this is the first I have heard of this practice.


15 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:46:41 AM by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas
I wonder if Michael Jackson knows about this?

Is that why he wears gloves?

Funny, he doesn't LOOK Jewish. But, he doesn't look black or male either.

16 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:50:08 AM by Tacis
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To: jocon307

I'm not sure about the other form of Herpes, but I know the one that causes cold sores can be transmitted to the eye. Attacks can cause cornea damage, which is permanent, and doctors usually mistake it for pinkeye until some damage has already been done. People with cold sore outbreaks need to be aware of that, it's so easy to spread.


17 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:54:13 AM by JenB
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To: steplock

what are you talking about? this is oral herpes, the common cold sore, can be transmitted through casual contact as well as sexual. I've had cold sores since I was a kid.

Mrs VS


18 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:57:53 AM by VeritatisSplendor
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas
...takes wine in his mouth and sucks the blood from the newly created wound,....

They what?!

19 posted on 8/5/2004, 3:58:35 AM by Fifth Business
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