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'Disturbing Trend' Seen In Negligent Discharges Of Weapons In Afghanistan
Stars and Stripes | August 5, 2004 | Jon R. Anderson

Posted on 08/05/2004 5:35:24 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

August 5, 2004 'Disturbing Trend' Seen In Negligent Discharges Of Weapons In Afghanistan

By Jon R. Anderson, Stars and Stripes

KANDAHAR AIRFIELD, Afghanistan — In the past 18 months, troops in Afghanistan have accidentally killed themselves or others at least six times and wounded nearly two dozen more troops through unsafe weapons handling, according to Army statistics released to Stars and Stripes.

In what military officials call negligent discharges, last year troops mistakenly fired their weapons 24 times in Afghanistan, injuring 18 and killing four.

So far this year, five troops have been wounded and two more have been killed in 16 accidental discharges.

In the same time frame, 24 troops have died from combat-related injuries in Afghanistan.

The top enlisted solider in Afghanistan called the staccato of accidental firings a “disturbing trend” and took leaders to task recently for failing to enforce basic standards to prevent the mistakes.

“Insufficient training, ineffective supervision, negligence, inattentiveness and outright indiscipline are all contributing factors,” Command Sgt. Maj. Cynthia Pritchett wrote in a recent column for the military’s weekly newsletter in Afghanistan.

Pritchett penned the column after seeing six negligent discharges in her Kabul headquarters over the past two months.

Although no one was injured in any of those accidents, Lance Cpl. Russell White wasn’t so lucky.

Assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines, White was the most recent fatality in Afghanistan when a fellow Marine mistakenly shot him in the head with a 9 mm pistol on June 20.

Spc. Jason Perkins knows he — or one his buddies — narrowly escaped becoming the next fatality.

A 22-year-old combat engineer with the Louisiana National Guard, Perkins shot himself in the foot with his M16 rifle July 6 at Kandahar Airfield in southern Afghanistan.

Perkins’ rifle was on safe, but when his weapon caught on part of his uniform the bolt slammed forward, chambering a round and discharging.

“I feel pretty stupid,” said Perkins, who’s still recovering at Kandahar. “I’m just so glad I shot myself and not someone else.”

Perkins did two things wrong, according to standard safety regulations: He left the bolt pulled back, and he should have paid attention to where the weapon was pointing.

Those are two of many things soldiers, and their leaders, need to pay attention to, wrote Pritchett. “Muzzle control, selector switch operations and fire disciple are critical to weapon safety. Whenever you see a safety violation, correct it. A moment’s inattention can lead to disaster.”

The statistics in Afghanistan do not include suicides and friendly-fire incidents such as the one that left former professional football star and Army Ranger Pat Tillman dead after a firefight in April.

Instead, negligent discharges could more appropriately be dubbed “forgetful fire.”

“Very few of these incidents happen due to a malfunction of the weapon itself; it is almost always due to negligent actions of the operator, or improper or inadequate training and supervision,” said Lt. Col. Susan Meisner, U.S. forces spokeswoman in Afghanistan.

Although Army safety officials prefer the term “accidental discharge,” most leaders use “negligent discharge,” said Meisner, “to drive home the point.”

She said that of the weapons mistakes in Afghanistan, about half have occurred while troops were clearing their weapons into clearing barrels. But during all the mistakes, she said, “proper clearing procedures were not followed.”

Leaders attribute the high rate of negligent discharges in Afghanistan to lack of basic awareness, she said.

“Soldiers aren’t accustomed to carrying loaded weapons, and high turnover in theater requires constant training and reminders,” she said.

Despite the fatalities and injuries, so far no troops in Afghanistan have faced criminal charges, officials said.

Instead, most have been handed letters of reprimand or nonjudicial Article 15 punishments, which include reductions in rank and fines, but do not remain on permanent records.

Although she said that military investigators have not determined “criminally culpable intent for a negligent-homicide charge” in any of the fatalities, White’s death remains under investigation.


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They say disturbing, if true it is worse then disturbing.
1 posted on 08/05/2004 5:35:25 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Maybe they figure they get to go home.


2 posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:47 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Former Military Chick

I can see it coming now...

No troops will be allowed to chamber a round unless given a direct order.

Then, no mags in the weapons.

Then, no ammo at all...


3 posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:50 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Former Military Chick

When you're in the posession of a loaded firearm, with good cause to expect to need to use it, 24/7 the chances of a moment of carelessness and inattention goes up. And with firearms, even what may seem the smallest mistake can and does kill.


4 posted on 08/05/2004 5:51:58 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Be a Dollar a Day FReeper, and SMILE when you get your Mastercard bill!)
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To: 2banana

"Then, no ammo at all..."

Beruit, 1983.


5 posted on 08/05/2004 5:53:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: 2banana
No troops will be allowed to chamber a round unless given a direct order.

...from Kofi Annan.

6 posted on 08/05/2004 5:57:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: 2banana
Then, no ammo at all...

"what we need are safer guns and safer bullets"

7 posted on 08/05/2004 6:02:51 AM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: Former Military Chick

I thought this was going to be about Afghani weddings.


8 posted on 08/05/2004 6:11:17 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Former Military Chick

I wonder how many of today's soldiers are familiar with firearms before entering the army, compared with the men of 30 or 40 years ago?


9 posted on 08/05/2004 6:16:09 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: 2banana
I seriously doubt you can. Rational people would see more training coming.
10 posted on 08/05/2004 6:21:35 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Former Military Chick
This is a result of focusing training/admin procedures on making sure the chamber is empty. Instead of relying on the 1st, 2d, and 3rd rules, soldiers are taught "All weapons are always loaded, except for most of the time when we tell you to make sure you have an empty chamber."

Focus needs to be on the handling of the weapon, not the loaded/unloaded status of the weapon.

11 posted on 08/05/2004 6:23:35 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Probably very few, it's a pretty expensive hobby.


12 posted on 08/05/2004 6:44:08 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Cultural Jihad
Rational people would see more training coming.

Yeah, but from personal experience, the military is not brimming with rational people especially when it comes to putting a "bullet" on an OER in this age of "zero defects..."

13 posted on 08/05/2004 7:08:00 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Former Military Chick
"Perkins’ rifle was on safe, but when his weapon caught on part of his uniform the bolt slammed forward, chambering a round and discharging.

Perkins did two things wrong, according to standard safety regulations: He left the bolt pulled back, and he should have paid attention to where the weapon was pointing.

Slam fire! Possibly he did one more thing wrong, not cleaning the bolt/fireing pin, or trigger sear?

14 posted on 08/05/2004 12:19:05 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't blame me - I voted for McClintock!)
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To: stuartcr
..probably very few, it's a pretty expensive hobby...

Shooting's not a hobby. It's a way of life. :) Cheers, Byron

15 posted on 08/06/2004 12:19:50 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

I shoot a lot, but my life certainly doesn't revolve around it. Other than when I was active duty, I've never had the NEED of a weapon..I just enjoy it.


16 posted on 08/06/2004 5:13:32 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: CaptRon
I thought this was going to be about Afghani weddings.

I can't stand it when I see people on television firing their AK-47s into the air. Hello people! The bullets do come down at some point!

17 posted on 08/06/2004 1:45:07 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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