Posted on 08/05/2004 11:00:22 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET
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I already did; right after I heard on the news what he'd said.
Does anyone remember the 2000 debate between President Bush and John McCain when President Bush held up a newspaper article or ad where McCain said something false about President Bush?
If someone has information please post it.
Thank you.
Senator McCain
I have nothing but the greatest respect for your service to our great country, however; I totally disagree with you in regards to the "Swiftboat Veterans for Truth".
These couragous men have come forward because they feel they have vital information about John Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam, They all served at least one complete tour and many are highly decorated. These are honest, concerned citizens who just as you have they put their life on the line.
John Kerry and the Democratic Party has made Vietnam a campaign issue not President Bush and these are men which have direct knowledge on his claims, Many veterans including myself have serious issues with Kerry's record.
If John Kerry wants to silence these men he should release his complete service record as has President Bush.
The media will not pursue the obvious contradictions of Kerry's record so these men have come forward, they have every right and indeed the duty to make their voices heard.
So while George Soros and the 527 groups spend tens of millions to smear President Bush with innuendo and lies, you feel these Veteran Heros should not be heard.
I respectfully disagree
Roy xxxxxxxxx
Just a suggestion: Rush is saying that it would not surprise him if the Bush campain also condemned to Swift Boat Veteran's report.
You might also send an email to:
BushCheney04@GeorgeWBush.com
Let them know who we find to be credible.
Take a look at the DU'ers, they're going ape over all of this. Course I haven't helped, been stirring the pot over there all morning.
here is mine:
Senator McCain,
I am very disappointed that you have condemmned the swiftboat veterans for daring to tell the truth. I am currently enlisted, and leaving soon for Iraq, and I realize that not everyone's performance in the military is equally honorable.
Since Senator Kerry has made his duty in Vietnam the cornerstone of his campaign, it is fair game for this legitimate criticism. This is doubly true considering Senator Kerry's slander of the GIs that he served with, the same ones he now hopes to use as a campaign prop. Most of these swiftboat commanders did not even come forward until their picture was used as a campaign tool without their consent.
Please reconsider you position on this issue.
sincerely,
Britton J. Wingfield
Did McCain make a deal with Hanoi to protect Kerry? What's up with this guy? Who cares what he thinks?
That's right, let Bush know the swiftees are the best thing going, and Bush should not desert their right to be heard.
My CBS radio newsbreak just mentioned the "private" group putting out this ad. Instead of dealing with the content of the message, the news anchor immediately mentions how McCain condemned the ad and how he was the victim of similar ads in the 2000 primaries.
To make things worse, they said that Bush is condemning the ad, as McClellan mentioned that Bush has been the victim of these private ads for months. The anchor than says that Bush calls on Kerry to join him in condemning all these ads.
The media is so transparent...it's not even funny anymore. For Months they haven't said a thing about these 527s that have been attacking Bush. All of the sudden...as the first 527 attacks Kerry, the media is in a tizzy to attack the Swiftboat Vets and discredit their message. Pathetic!
GREAT letter Roy.
I hope you emailed it to Sen. McCain.
You should also send it to your local newspaper.
You too, eh?
:)
"I am writing to express my outrage regarding your condemnation of an advertisement by the group called Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, where they challenge John Kerry as to his fitness to lead our young men and women in the Armed Forces.
I would think that you of all people, Senator McCain, in view of the atrocities that you personally endured during the Vietnam War, would understand the devastating affect of having a professional political opportunist such as John Kerry, whose history clearly shows his disdain for the military, as well as his documented treasonous words that not only aided the enemy you and thousands of others were fighting, but validated their treatment of those like you who were captured and tortured.
Perhaps one reason for your diatribe against the veteran group is that it appears that you are suffering from the same condition as Al Gore, as you were also on the losing end of the people's choice for president in 2000. I see that same hysteria in you that Mr. Gore exhibits whenever it becomes real that President Bush's reelection is forthcoming. The only question that I have is "Why?"
While I appreciate your past service to our country, it is your present service that is lacking conviction and principles. For you to support a treasonous person such as John Kerry by condemning those who, unlike you, served alongside him during wartime, is tantamount to aligning yourself against our military and with our enemies.
Thank you for allowing me to express my utter disappointment in you."
Britton, excellent letter.
I hope you sent it to Sen. McCain, and ought to send it to your local newspaper.
ClickThe Kerry campaign has denounced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, saying none of the men in the ad served on the boat that Kerry commanded. Three veterans on Kerry's boat that day Jim Rassmann, who says Kerry saved his life, Gene Thorson and Del Sandusky, the driver on Kerry's boat, said the group was lying on all fronts.
They say Kerry was injured, and Rassmann called the group's account ''pure fabrication.''
The leader of the group, retired Adm. Roy Hoffmann, said none of the 13 veterans in the commercial served on Kerry's boat but rather were in other swiftboats within 50 yards of Kerry's. The group claims that there was no gunfire on the day Kerry pulled Rassmann from a muddy river in the Mekong Delta and that Kerry's arm was not wounded, as he has claimed.
''What we have is a fabrication that led to Kerry getting his Bronze Star and his last Purple Heart,'' said Thurlow, who said he commanded a swiftboat near Kerry's.
Done!
Fun ain't it? Amazing what you can get them to admit. Like Michael Moore is telling the truth but the Swift boat vets are liars.
I hope you sent this to Sen. McCain, and will also send to your local newspaper.
The President plays the necessary political games.
The dems aren't going to stop, no matter who says what. It's not like Kerry is really their guy, is it?
I hope the Swiftees keep the pressure on.
Good for you!
You can mention that McCain once made a similar claim on FOX News, to one in that the veterans are making, that Kerry's anti-war behavior was used to torment the POWs.
You know, if President Bush decides to, as Rush says, "take the high road" on this by denouncing this ad, he may well walk his "high road" right out of the White House.
These vets had nothing to gain by coming forward with Truth. Don't we, the American Public, have a right to know what they are saying?
I just emailed Senator McCain.
Swift Boat Veterans For Truth
http://www.swiftvets.com
Viet Nam Veterans Against John Kerry
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Done.
Thanks! I have sent it to Senator McCain and several local East Texas newspapers
"The Swift Boat Veterans are missing their hoods and sheets."
"The laundry where they got them cleaned ---- reported several had YELLOW STAINS ON THEM THAT WOULDN'T COME OUT."
These are only a few of the statements the DUmmies are saying right now. HEY DU.....BITE ME!
Here's mine;
I just read in the Boston Globe some very ugly comments made by you against a group of our nation's Veterans.
Are you suggesting these veterans do not have 1st amendment rights?
Are you suggesting that only you and John Kerry are qualified to speak on the Viet Nam War?
Shall we consider this your endorsement of John Kerry's actions taken against Viet Nam Veterans immediately upon his return from Viet Nam?
You imply these veterans are in error in their rebuttal of Kerry's protrayal of them as War Criminals. Shall we consider this your endorsement of Kerry's protrayal of them as War Criminals?
Why have you made no similar statements slamming Michael Moore, George Soros, and Moveon.org for their attacks on the President Of The United States?
Why have you not repudiated those who state the President of the United States committed a Coup De'Tat in the 2000 election?
Why have you never corrected Senators Kennedy or Clinton in any of their incredibly slanderous lies against President Bush?
Just who the hell do you think you are?
I await your response.
***** ****
Citizen,
United States of America
I just checked the CBSNews.com website, and there is not a renunciation of the swiftees by Bush campaign, just comments that Bush doesn't like the 527's of either side.
Done.
In May 14, 1973 US News & World Report, McCain said that testimony by Kerry and others before Sen. Fulbright's Senate foreign relations committee was "the most effective propaganda [my North Vietnamese captors] had to use against us." McCain and Kerry later reconciled, in the early 1990's. That's Mccain's right, but he has no right to tell other POW's and Vietnam veterans to also kiss Kerry's a__.
Here's what I submitted
Did McCain condemn Fahrenheit 9/11? Did Kerry? Or did they just talk about Moore's right to free speech. I think the White House should deal with it the same way Kerry did with Fahrenheit 9/11.
The deed is done!
I just sent an e-mail to MY SUPPOSED senator, telling him to start acting like a Republican and to quit carrying liberal water. Lotta good it will do.
Here is a copy of my email to McCain:
Your comments regarding the Swit Boat Vets are and embarassment to you, our country, and specifically, the Swift Boat Vets. You don't know the truth.
Your ineffective campaign finance reform has empowered the 527's to raise unlimited amounts of cash to place ads that lie about President Bush.
Now that an anti-Kerry 527 placed an ad, you feel the need to take a stand.
Why don't you just shut up, sit down, and get out of the way so we can cleanup this mess that you help make.
McCain repeated the allegation against Kerry on FOX news, as recently as last December. I saw it, and cheered McCain for one of those rare moments when he seemed to display some integrity.
Senator McCain,
I read your statement about the Swiftboat Vets ad and I find your remarks unjustified.
For a Republican, you are intent on curbing freedom of speech for Republicans but not for democrats.
You have successfully created a campaign finance law that allows the 527 groups to raise all kinds of money which they now use to bash President Bush.
If the Swiftboat Vets have information about Kerry's Vietnam record they should and must be able to say so.
The last I heard, this is still The United States of America and we the people are getting tired of democrats getting away with the lies they have been spreading about President Bush.
WE ARE NOT TAKING IT ANYMORE. FIGHTING TERRORISM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS ELECTION AND KERRY IS NOT EQUIPT TO FIGHT THAT WAR AND PROTECT AMERICANS.
So, Mr. McCain BUTT OUT. Apparently you're not interested in helping President Bush get reelected you're working for the democrats.
I'm an Arizona Republican.
Dear Senator Mc Cain,
We have read with shock your comments regarding the Swift Boat operators who are challenging Senator Kerry's version of events in Vietnam which he claims make him an ideal candidate for Commander in Chief. Never mind the fact that he CHOSE to bug out after only four months and leave his crew mates behind! That is something we are sure you and most other service men and women would NOT have done. We are also sure you would also have NOT returned to the U.S. and admitted to personally committing numerous atrocities against innocent Vietnamese civilians NOR would you have accused your fellow veterans of doing the same, particularly while their lives were still on the line.
We know you and Kerry are close friends but we don't think that friendship allows you to question the motives or patriotism of the Swift Boat sailors who were ACTUALLY AT THE SCENE of Kerry's alleged "heroics". You were NOT there. If you believe that these men who have ably and honorably served their country have no right to speak, then have the guts to say so! We haven't heard you offer to debate these men face-to-face so until we do, our advice to you is to STFU!!!!
Dear Senator McCain,
Were you not appreciative of the millions of Americans who wanted to hear, and listened to what you had to say about your experiences while held as a POW in VietNam. Your courageous efforts back then as well as those who now speak out against John Kerry, are the actions of many brave men who have molded the freedoms and attitudes of this country and it's pride.
Therefore, is John Kerry now the only one who deserves to be heard? His run for President makes it obvious that he wants to be. And given that, do you not think that these courageous Americans, also known as war heroes, have the right to be heard? Especially now that you have publicly challenged them on the knowledge "of the facts" that you were aware of, while being held as a POW and far removed from those that served next to, and close by, John Kerry?
We, as Americans elect you to represent us, not stifle our opinions nor our voices, Senator. Our tax dollars pay your check for that representation, and not to shun dissenting opinions. Many of us are grown men and women who can make up our own minds about who is lying and who is not, and we do that based upon the facts as presented to us without misrepresentation or distortion.
Tell me, Senator...are you not questioning the patriotism of these brave men who have come forward to question "the facts" as outlined by John Kerry. And speaking of the facts, Senator...since you are relying so heavily on them, when will you ask John Kerry to release his medical records so that some of us may review "the facts" (regarding John Kerry's wartime service and the medals he received) as you like to establish as a matter of relevance?
And lastly, as a matter of importance, since this is the Presidential election cycle, can you please explain to us concerned Americans i.e. voters...why many of these brave men, if any, would band together and choose to lie about the actions of Senator Kerry, rather than challenge them on "the facts". And if you are then proven wrong, will you offer a public apology to those who have so bravely and courageously served our country so that you may "represent" us. Those who now question the actions of John Kerry.
Regards Senator,
An American Patriot
McCain suffers from extreme arrogance! He knows Kerry demonsrated after he was in Vietnam but that makes little difference to McCain but then neither did the POW families that asked for his help.
McCain is a self-serving, egotistical backstabber that won't tell the truth about Kerry if it hit him in the face.
Now ask me how I really feel?
This expose' is exactly what was needed to keep x42 out of the WH, but there was no one with the courage to do it.
Like the veterans have said, they have given their blood for the right to tell what they know about Kerry.
So here's the Bible verse about McVain:
Like a bad tooth and an unsteady foot
Is confidence in a faithless man in time of trouble
(Proverbs 25:19)
Dan
Sent emails to McCain, and GOP. I am beyond furious with my Arizona Senator!!!!
Dear Senator McCain,
I believe the charges raised by the Swift Boat Veterans should be investigated with the same rigor that was applied to the charges our President was "AWOL".
As you mentioned, no one really wants to relive those painful years. Senator Kerry, however, portrayed his Vietnam combat experience as his primary qualification to be President. It was nearly the sole qualification he offered.
Somehow these men are willing to make these charges, even knowing they will now be engulfed in political flames. Perhaps they should be given a chance to repeat them, perhaps under oath.
Some of the charges they level in their book could be proved or refuted by the release of the pertinent records. Was Senator Kerry in Cambodia at Christmas 1968, for example.
The President's detractors have been given a great deal of latitude even when their charges proved baseless. Examples like Joe Wilson and Richard Clarke spring to mind. Why should the Senator have immunity from similar scrutiny. He would certainly face it if his bid for the Presidency succeeds.
Respectfully,
Hey folks, I just checked MSNBC, Fox, CNN et al websites and they are ignoring this story. McCain protesting this was mentioned on ABC's website. His "outrage" may actualy work to our advantage by raising attention to it. Maybe we should thank him?
Just emailed McCain and gave another 25 bucks to the Swifties....that's how to answer that charge..
Did you really have to go so easy on him? HA! (sarcasm) Great job!!
McCain is a Freak-show, definitely got some big problems...probably got his brain removed and/or replaced in Viet-China.....would not trust this fool and I will not be surprised about anything McCain says or does...one day soon he will hit the button and we will witness a very interesting implosion!
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