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The Fraud Factor: O'Reilly Slams Swift Boat Vets Kerry Ad
Self | 8-6-04

Posted on 08/06/2004 8:44:31 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

Last night, Fox News Commentator Bill O’Reilly launched a broadside on a new blistering Television Commercial produced by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth saying that sharply criticized Kerry’s service in Vietnam. Literally, the first words out of his mouth were about the “brutal attack ad” and he introduced the segment about the ad that “savagely attacked” Kerry. He kept up his endless denunciation by saying that he promised to deliver the “fairest election coverage” and said he covered left wing slander and now this ad as if to say it is right wing slander.

Bill O’Reilly, if my recollection serves me correct, has taken a position a while back saying he wouldn’t allow anyone or any information about Kerry’s role as the leader of the radical pro-communist VVAW, his connection to Jane Fonda, his bogus Winter Soldier Investigation, his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971 or anything else to be aired on his program. Yet, Bill O’Reilly can have Douglas Brinkley, Kerry’s authorized biographer, and author of “Tour of Duty” come on and paint a glowing portrait of Kerry. This is what he means by “fair and balanced.”

Of course he has allowed Democrats to come on his program and make their argument that President Bush went AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard. The whole assertion that Bush was AWOL has been refuted, but the fact remains that he allowed such claims to be aired and when it come to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth – O’Reilly was all style and no substance.

He said that facts are that John Kerry volunteered to serve in Vietnam and that he had a Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. If he had paid attention to what the group was saying he would know that Kerry received the Bronze Star for killing a lone teenage VC and burning down a village. I recall in the Boston Globe that Kerry reportedly shot a wounded VC in the back. O’Neil says in ‘Unfit to Command’ that it was awarded two days after the incident, it wasn’t vetted by review, and it was designed to boost morale.

Odell was on Hannity and Colmes explaining that Rasmussen wasn’t pulled by Kerry from the water under fire, but that four people were in the water due to a boat hitting a mine and that his boat had picked up two of those people. Kerry had gotten the Bronze Star for this and Rasmussen has been following Kerry almost everywhere beating his drum.

Then there are the Purple Hearts. John Kerry was on a training mission and he fired either a mortar or a rocket at some rocks on shore and a piece of shrapnel ricocheted hitting him in the arm. The doctor pulls it out and puts a band aid on – the Kennedy Family writes a letter and he gets a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound requiring a band aid. The he attacks a flotilla that was carrying rice – I suppose that dangerous rice wounded him somehow – second Purple Heart. The third wasn’t related to enemy fire either.

So Bill O’Reilly needs to do his homework a little better before he talks about how “awful” it is with guest Dick Morris. One only wonders why he didn’t allow the group to defend itself or the ad. Dick Morris, not surprisingly, says the ad is “stupid” and dangerous.” O’Reilly continued his righteous indignation saying that he condemned the Left. What is awful or stupid about Veterans that served in Coastal Division 11 telling us the truth about Kerry and his service in Vietnam? It seems all we got from O’Reilly were these emotional attacks while Morris pondered the elusive connection between the group and the Republican Party.

He had the audacity to say that Rasmussen is unimpeachable, but I say to the contrary. He’s been out there on the campaign trail helping the Kerry Campaign sell Kerry as a “war hero.” He’s a willing political whore. Now we have accounts by Veterans, Kerry’s fellow officers, which contradict the account given about Kerry saving his life. Why isn’t that unimpeachable? Bill O’Reilly didn’t do his homework.

Dick Morris held the contention that you don’t attack Kerry on his “strongest suit.” Well, if what Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is saying is true – then the centerpiece of Kerry’s campaign becomes his weakest. My goodness, he has relied on this to inoculate himself against any criticism that he is weak on defense. I was outraged that he said no one is interested, because I’m immensely interested. What I wasn’t interested in was this circle jerk between O’Reilly and Morris trashing the Ad.

This ad will effect how people vote – showing Kerry is a liar and that his service was dishonorable and he didn’t earn those medals. Interestingly enough, Kerry said in a 1971 interview that he gave his medals back, but then he flip-flopped in 1984, 1988, 1996, 2003, and 2004 with evolving stories that he gave his ribbons back and those medals weren’t his and it is an issue “instigated by the republicans.” The 1971 footage blew him out of the water, but now he wants to highlight the medals he supposedly threw away or “gave back.”

I urge everyone to email Bill O’Reilly and fulfill his prediction that he would get tons of angry email from right wingers who think this sort of attack is okay.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; billoreilly; kerry; swiftboatveterans
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To: MikeinIraq

The book "Unfit for Command" was written by John O'Neill. He wrote it because he feels he has an obligation to campaign against Kerry. That's true with the other swift boat vets.


101 posted on 08/06/2004 10:27:08 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: sauropod

TURD BURGLAR
Definition: A pooper who does not realize that you are in the stall and tries to force the door open. This is one of the most shocking and vulnerable moments that can occur when taking a dump at work. If this occurs, remain in the stall until the Turd Burglar leaves. This way you will avoid all uncomfortable eye contact.


102 posted on 08/06/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I seldom watch O'Reilly. Anyone who's "best friend" is Peter Jennings is just another shill...

Don't watch Hannity and Colmes either. Colmes is a meathead. Can't admit he is wrong, ever.
Juan Williams, Ceci Connelly....Add all the other Dem shills...


103 posted on 08/06/2004 10:29:17 AM PDT by Prost1
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To: sinkspur
you better make sure they're telling the truth.

Do you think they are telling the truth?

104 posted on 08/06/2004 10:30:19 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the link, I just buttresses everything that has been posted here today.


105 posted on 08/06/2004 10:30:34 AM PDT by BobbyK (The Truth Is Out There.)
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To: cyborg
Just imagine the rest of that dictionary.
106 posted on 08/06/2004 10:33:07 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: " We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
O'Reilly is just another media whore.

His position is indefensible. You can't dismiss the testimony of a group of people this large. One person maybe, but not ten or twenty.

107 posted on 08/06/2004 10:33:21 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sauropod

And that was the clean version :/


108 posted on 08/06/2004 10:35:36 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

O'Fagly is a nutjob. Did he do this before or after he decided to endorse civil unions.

I'm starting to wonder if he aint just a wee bit light in the loafers himself but scared to admit it.......


109 posted on 08/06/2004 10:38:52 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: gimme1ibertee
The H&C interview with the one vet was very good-he didn't back down an inch from Susan Estrich, though she tried to make the funding of the ad appear dubious in nature. I wish them luck,and I really hope they stay the course and don't capitulate,as it appears this one vet has done.

Yes! He was very professional. Which made Susan the witch even more pi**ed off. LOL! (Witch is not what I meant but that is what I said. hehe!)

110 posted on 08/06/2004 10:39:18 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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To: presidio9

O'Reilly is only in it for himself. He thinks what good for him is good for the USA. He is starting to believe his own hype. He needs to learn some humility--How can you be fair and ballanced when you have an ego the size of the Empire State Building? He's an allie-- the same way Saudi Arabia is our Allie. He says he hates France--Now he's acting like France! Have another sip of wine Bill, and relax.


111 posted on 08/06/2004 10:45:04 AM PDT by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Don't watch O'Reilly ~ Rush Limbaugh is getting the truth out.


112 posted on 08/06/2004 10:47:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: MEG33
It would never occur to Dick Morris that Bush isn't the power behind this ad...that's how dems operate.

That was one of my big beefs with the dialogue. "But where did the half-million come from?" "Yes, Bill, but you do not just come up with $500,000." Morris did not come out and say it, but he fully implied that the GOP was in on the ad.
113 posted on 08/06/2004 10:47:21 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (There are two Americas and one of them is severely losing)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

unreal


114 posted on 08/06/2004 10:47:32 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Hollywoodghost
He's an allie-- the same way Saudi Arabia is our Allie.

Exactly. Great Britian is a friend. Poland is a friend. Isreal is a friend. Saudi Arabia is an ally.

115 posted on 08/06/2004 10:50:39 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Tribune7
Do you think they are telling the truth?

One wasn't.

116 posted on 08/06/2004 10:59:00 AM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world it would be!!)
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To: everyone
First of all Bill O'Reilly has stated several times that he is a populist. If you watch tonight I am sure that he will give a chance for the Swift Boat Veterans and the people who served with Kerry a chance to defend themselves.

The worst part about this story is not being told and that is the fact that someone pressured the military to give John Kerry medals that he didn't deserve. He then took these medals and used them to launch a political career. This is how we need to attack!

Notes to others: Kennedy does suck, but in the defense of truth. His Boat was damaged, being repaired and in a light fog before it got rammed. His dad forced the Navy to let him serve event-hough everyone around him pleaded not to go. It goes on but that part of his life rather cool from a personal standpoint.

Name a person on other than Bill O'Reilly who has done a better job at destroying the Democratic hate machine. They hate him for a reason. No he is not one of us. GOOD. Just because we are right 90% of the time doesn't mean we get a pass for the other 10%. We need to be kept in check. I know I do.
117 posted on 08/06/2004 10:59:23 AM PDT by grapeape ("If your attack is going too well, you're probably walking into an ambush.")
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To: sdk7x7; Conservative Coulter Fan; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"Too bad I'm not still @ Fox, I could get the transcript. Anyone have it?"

I have the entire segment (except the first 30 seconds) of the program on .wmv video. Unfortunately, it is 179 megabytes and would require some serious crunching for me to put it on a server for viewing. This would reduce the audio as well as the visual performance of the media. Freepmail me if you need a section and I will do my best to post that portion in question, or I can work with somebody that wants to transcribe it. I have tons of work today, but later tonight, I might be able to get to it.
118 posted on 08/06/2004 11:03:34 AM PDT by DocRock (Check my homepage for more "home movies" of the Kerry campaign)
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To: sinkspur

John Kerry and War Crimes in Vietnam
(He was in command of a Swift Boat
and ordered his men to do these things.
Listen to this 1971 audio clip)

http://www.streamload.com/jmstein77/Kerry2.mp3


119 posted on 08/06/2004 11:09:23 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Just say NO to TV and Cable "News" , "Polls" and "Election Results")
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

O'Reilly is somebody's BUTT sucker! What a BUM!


120 posted on 08/06/2004 11:10:09 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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