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To: gilliam
We are fighting to get rid of terrorism.

Fine. Then he needs to say that.

Claiming it is a fight for our freedom is completely inaccurate and misleading. The title of this article is pure propaganda, designed to link the Iraq campaign with American liberty.

14 posted on 08/06/2004 2:23:10 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: freeeee

We have two choices. Either to fight for our way of life and that includes freedom, the very notion of which is anathema to Islamofascists, right here in America. Or we take the fight to where the aforementioned lunatics eat and sleep and train. The latter is what we've chosen to do.

Some random thoughts at 3 A.M. and I've been up since yesterday at 5 A.M., so bear with me. You're looking at this through the wrong end of the spyglass, focusing on certain individual freedoms that have been compromised, some for the short haul hopefully, and which will be restored once this horror is over.(Although I agree it's well nigh impossible to restore freedoms once a population has become accustomed to doing without, and yes, this is not a good thing.) Other individual freedoms are a whole lot more complicated...we get into border control, Mexicans and everyone else migrating north as fast as their feet can take them. They all demand the vote along with everything else, too, illegal or not.

The rest of the world wants the right to vote in our elections, would you believe it and can't be counted on to vote in our interest. This is mindboggling. If we demanded the right to vote in France's elections, they'd call us crazy. We'd all love to live in Utopia, but we're stuck here with the best this planet has to offer at the moment and have to make the best of it.

I'm a closet isolationist, hate change, and just want the rest of the world to leave us alone. What the heck is wrong with that? This attitude is decried as 'insensitive and egocentric' by those who'd like to see us hogtied and shackled to the UN -- See Kerry's campaign speeches.

I knew NAFTA was the nose under the tent, that we'd hear that giant sucking sound as jobs and everything else disappeared into the third world. This was supposed to be the rising tide to lift all boats, they'd have money to buy our goods (What goods? They're all being manufactured somewhere else.)All we have to do is keep reinventing ourselves, coming up with more and better inventions that generate jobs, hope, etc.. Cell phones, HDTV, and I-Pod won't do it, alas. Well, after the middle east blows up, maybe we'll dig around in the archives down in D.C. and find the formula for cold fusion, where we hid it so the middle east would still have something to sell.

Don't get me started on the C.F.R. and David Rockefeller and that gang who got together after the wall fell and decided how best to rearrange things so big business could bring prosperity to the third world, etc....which brings us back to NAFTA.

I used to support the death penalty. Not anymore. The federal govt. and state govt. all of them, have too much power, and it's getting worse every day. We're like frogs in cold water on the stove, who don't know we're being boiled alive until it's too late. So why give the feds or anyone else that ultimate power of taking a human life? No matter how heinous the crime, there should be something govt. can't take away from even the worst citizens.

Maybe to find Utopia, we'll have to move to Mars.


33 posted on 08/07/2004 12:44:37 AM PDT by hershey
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