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GOP chooses Keyes; is this 'The Simpsons,' or what? / GOP turns serious race into a sideshow
Star Newspapers (Chicago) ^ | Sunday, August 8, 2004 | Tom Houlihan / Star editors

Posted on 08/08/2004 4:12:01 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Chi-townChief

One thing for certain. The debates are going to be something to watch!


41 posted on 08/08/2004 4:47:01 PM PDT by Ironsman
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To: conshack
"I think Keyes will turn what would have been an "unwinable" race into a contest."

This is a bad move for the GOP...

42 posted on 08/08/2004 4:49:05 PM PDT by NewLand (Kerry lies...)
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To: Dane
Does it really matter when you compare fellow Republicans to the AIDS virus, Dane? This sort of over-the-top rhetoric is the reason he alienates so many.

There are a million ways he could have expressed his displeasure with California Republicans and Schwarzenegger without being so obscenely off-putting.

I'm not trying to get anyone to withdraw their support. I just wish someone could get him to pull the fader back a little bit.

43 posted on 08/08/2004 4:49:58 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"Impressive credentials...highly educated, very articulate..."

Can you say patronizing? And I'm sure the editor considers Keyes a credit to his race, too : P


44 posted on 08/08/2004 4:52:44 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The road to surrender is paved with appeasement.)
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To: Dane
Dane we'd all vote for Keyes.

But he's a powder keg. And the heat source can come from anywhere that causes him to blow.

45 posted on 08/08/2004 4:53:32 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: horatio
Horatio: I agree with you. America should not look at how a name is spelled or pronounced in order to qualify as "American". American is not just blonde hair and blue eyes. American is not just Jim Smith, it means the idea that Jim and Balthazar have an equal shot at a public office because they have good ideas and the interest of the commonwealth at heart.

Hell the only real Americans go by names like Sitting Bull,CHOCHMINGWU, and Kwinyakwa'a. Otherwise, you are ALL immigrants, sons and daughters of one or descendants there of.
46 posted on 08/08/2004 4:56:10 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Chi-townChief

Doesn't it seem rather odd that Keyes, when, as described by the author, has errant beliefs, supported only by a fringe element and nobody in Illinois, and a track record of election failures, is considered enough of a threat that this large editorial is considered necessary?

Is it possible that Obama is another empty suit like Kerry?

A guy that can deliver a prewritten speech, but when faced with a direct head on debate, may fold like a house of cards under the ounslaught of Hurricane Keyes?

The underlying thread of this long nasty editorial is fear.


47 posted on 08/08/2004 4:56:19 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (The (Swiftboat Veterans and Vietnam Veterans for) Truth will set you free!!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
This is good. They wouldn't be this upset if he didn't have them worried

BINGO!

48 posted on 08/08/2004 4:56:55 PM PDT by catpuppy (Vote For John Kerry. Make Jane Fonda Proud.)
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To: AppyPappy
You sound like a Democrat, Sink.

Nah. I just don't like people who characterize people on their own side with whom they disagree as "evil."

And I'm not especially wild about being characterized as a Democrat because I think Keyes is a loose cannon. I said I'd vote for him if I were an Illinois resident.

49 posted on 08/08/2004 4:57:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Does it really matter when you compare fellow Republicans to the AIDS virus, Dane? This sort of over-the-top rhetoric is the reason he alienates so many.

There are a million ways he could have expressed his displeasure with California Republicans and Schwarzenegger without being so obscenely off-putting.

I'm not trying to get anyone to withdraw their support. I just wish someone could get him to pull the fader back a little bit

I understand that. That quote bristles me also, but it was a year ago in a very unusual election. We are humans and we make mistakes and we learn from them.

Call me naive I think Alan Keyes has learned from them.

I think his main focus will be Obama and I will support him if and until he goes back into that type of mode. But I don't think he will.

50 posted on 08/08/2004 4:57:57 PM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Chi-townChief

Alan Keyes will be on the radio WLS in Chicago. you can listen live on their website. http://www.wlsam.com/


52 posted on 08/08/2004 4:59:59 PM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Dane
Call me naive I think Alan Keyes has learned from them.

You're naive. Keyes has been saying this stuff for fifteen years.

Can a leopard change his spots?

53 posted on 08/08/2004 5:01:37 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: Chi-townChief
"Keyes has never lived in Illinois, has no visible political or personal ties to the state, surely has little knowledge of our unique problems and issues"

Oh, and no DemocRAT would ever dream of doing that. < /sarcasm >

"those beliefs include eliminating the federal income tax, prohibiting abortion procedures of any kind under any conditions, radically reducing government, dumping Social Security as we know it, fully supporting the right to bear arms"

Yeah. So?

"Doesn't Hastert — or the other Republican bigshots — know that only 10 percent or 15 percent of the population ever listens to right-wing radio?"

If so few people listen to consersative talk radio, then why are you left wing whack jobs so scared of it?

"Most of us, though, are smart enough to know an out-of-state con job when we see one."

Interesting claim from someone who obviously is incapable of spotting an in-state con job.

54 posted on 08/08/2004 5:03:48 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: horatio
"Oh, please. Slam Obama on the issues, but not his name. That's simply un-American. "

Not in Chicago it ain't.

Hey! Obama, where's yo mama? Think she'll ever come barack?

It worked for some old dead white president.

55 posted on 08/08/2004 5:05:17 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: sinkspur
Can a leopard change his spots?

Sheesh just give him a chance. If Henry Hyde can show up at his rally, he isn't that bad.

And BTW, I think he has learned to tone down his rhetoric. This paper had to go back to last year to find that quote.

56 posted on 08/08/2004 5:08:05 PM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Dane

Well, we'll see. I'd vote for him, but the cringe-factor with Keyes is very high.


57 posted on 08/08/2004 5:11:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"What was their position when the Hildebeast ran in NY? I'll bet that they didn't breathe a word of criticism."

Nah. These guys just kind of squealed "YOU GO, GIRL !!!" back then.
58 posted on 08/08/2004 5:12:08 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Blood of Tyrants
" I'll bet that they didn't breathe a word of criticism."

And she was from THEIR state.

59 posted on 08/08/2004 5:14:20 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: bayourod

Actually, Barack's mama may still be around; it's his old man who run and hid.


60 posted on 08/08/2004 5:14:52 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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