Posted on 08/10/2004 9:27:33 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
the war into which first Johnson and then President Nixon
Should read....the war into which first Kennedy and then Johnson sent them, before Nixon got them out.
Some point by point refutation would be nice if you get a chance.
Kennedy was dedicated to extracting U.S. personnel from South Vitenam. A few weeks before he was assassinated, he ordered the troops out. When LBJ took office, he literally stopped men on the runway preparing to board aircraft to leave South Vietnam and ordered them to go back. Within weeks he had thousands MORE troops on the ground in preparation for his war.
I forget who was going to do it, but a thread regarding Swift Boats facts would be nice right about now.
Excuse me? Exactly WHO decided that his entire campaign platform would be "I served in Vietnam"?
There is one way to battle the lies of the lunatic lefties like this clymer, Richard Larsen.
That is to donate to the Swift boat vets to counter the tie in with the mediots and Kerry!
This bs oped is exactly why we should contribute to the Swift Boat Money raising for tv ads, based on comments from Kerri's staff":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1188521/posts
According to a Kerry campaign source, senior campaign advisers tasked two Washington-based campaign staffers to vet the recently published Unfit for Command.
"The purpose was to compare what that book had with what we had on file from Senator Kerry," says the campaign source, who said that the research project developed more than 75 instances where Kerry's recollections, previous remarks, or writings conflicted with the book's reporting.
"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."
The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.
"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."
I understand that, But he did put them there in the first place.
The ongoing leftist revisionist history about "Nixons War" p!$$e$ me off.
"President Kennedy was the third President to affirm our basic policy in Vietnam, but the first to expand it to a new, heightened level of commitment. He increased the number of U.S. military combat advisors in South Vietnam to 16,000. The Kennedy administration also committed a tragic blunder that forever changed the equation in Vietnam. On November 1, 1963, a coup encouraged and supported by the Kennedy administration led to the assassination of South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem. By participating in the removal of South Vietnam's President, Kennedy had made the United States directly responsible for the fate of South Vietnam. What had been Vietnam's war became Nixons war."
This guy is a loon but he is a on-staff paid loon - I've been pushing for them to get an on-staff conservative columnist.
Not exactly. His justification was domestic politics and not foreign geo-political strategy. LBJ could not politically afford pictures of Saigon falling to the communists before the 1968 election. Johnson had to prop up the South Vietnamese or loose in '68. While draftee's, like me and volunteers were fighting communists, LBJ was actually fighting Republicans
"We were soldiers, once", and we were also Lyndon Johnson's unwitting '68 election volunteers. That's why Vietnam smells bad to everybody.
An Army Truck Battalion is much more troop heavy than a Swift boat unit was during Viet Nam. I served in one as an Operations NCO just before I retired and believe you me all the senior NCOs were aware who the truly bad and truly shaky officers were. We had to because oftentime the only protection that junior enlisted have from poor leadership at the commissioned level is strong leadership at the NCO level. What we did was to essentialy freeze the bad seeds out by giving them as little to do as possible.
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He certainly did. Bad "Karma" if there ever was one. However, had JFK lived, he would not have needed to reinforce Vietnam to win a second term in '64. Lyndon Johnson, OTOH, did escalate in '65 to protect his a$$ for '68's election. We all know it did not work. LBJ was no "Commander-in-Chief"!
The point is, Vietnam was not international politics, but domestic. And Democrats are willing to sacrifice long term foreign policy for short term domestic political advantage. Read Jimmy Carter, Iran and 9/11. John Kerry and Iraq.
As to the writer saying none that served ON Kerry's boat are against him. Wrong, again, oh liberal writer. Steve Gardner is speaking out against Kerry. Calls him an "opportunist".
And this: If, as Republicans maintain, no link exits between the Bush campaign and the swift-boat veterans, why didn't the White House denounce the ad when Sen. John McCain, the target of a similar campaign in his fight against Bush during the 2000 primary campaign, asked it to
Well, Mr. Writer, perhaps the Bush administration respects the rights of these vets to speak out. The Bush administration has not questioned Kerry's service, but these men certainly have a right to. And the Bush people don't take cues from McCain, who, I might add, made his one and only comment on the issue and has been severely taken to task by his constituents (I can attest that I called his office in my city). I am anticipating a modified response next time he addresses the issue.
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Hypocrisy abounds...I don't hear anyone complaining about George Soros' funding of left wing causes. Oh, but that is just "leveling the playing field". R-i-i-i-i-ight...
Thanks Sarge. I'm here because of wise, experienced and dedicated "Lifers" like you.
God Bless you.
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