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To: usafsk; freeangel
FreeAngel answered the question better than I could.

It's presumptuous as all hell to second-guess God.

If He wants me to have a blood child, I will become pregnant someday. If He doesn't, we will adopt.
24 posted on 08/11/2004 7:15:57 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I love this job more than I love taffy, and I'm a man who loves his taffy.)
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To: Xenalyte

If God wants me to miraculously recover from my cancer, then I will, if not, I will die.

No need for this radical intervention of chemo and radiation...?


28 posted on 08/11/2004 7:21:03 AM PDT by HRoarke (Janet Reno would have sent Mel Martinez back to Cuba)
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To: Xenalyte
It's presumptuous as all hell to second-guess God.

It seems to me that God didn't want Anthony and Stephanie to have kids, since he gave Anthony a low sperm count, and Stephanie a double whammy of endometriosis and blocked fallopian tubes. Yet they second-guessed him with some unspecified "treatment of their conditions" and are praised. If Catholics don't believe in in-vitro fertilization and want to call it "evil," that's fine. Many others can and will just as rightly disagree.
46 posted on 08/11/2004 7:49:25 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Xenalyte; freeangel

Begs the question - what if He wants the kid you may adopt to grow up without parents......

My wife was scarred by appendectomy when she was 16 - after 16 years of marriage we decided to try IVF - We have a son due in October.

Anyone that spouts the "turn your life over to God's will" crap is a complete hypocrite unless they have also decided to forgo ANy MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR ANY REASON.

That splinter that will infect and perhaps cause you to lose your finger - God's will - that radiation treatment for cancer - uh-oh - you would be subverting God's will, Your adopted kid gets a fever and dies without treatment because it was God's will - oh well - it must be divine intervention.

MY belief - it is God's will that we have such marvelous medical techniques that preserve life.

God gave us the tools (sperm and egg) to perform IVF - IVF is not creating life by any intellectual view - it is merely assisting life. Just like EVERY other medical procedure.

Your argument about wasting fertilized eggs is meritless because God wastes eggs and sperm every day by design. Where is your outrage about that?

And I am Catholic and I do disagree with MAN's perspective on this issue. I believe God loves IVF. To question the love and commitment between my wife and I because we could not concieve naturally is true evil.


177 posted on 08/12/2004 5:46:59 AM PDT by Southern62
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