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1 posted on 08/11/2004 2:14:16 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato

I think Obama's father ran out on him soon after birth but we should cut him some slack on the Muslim thing. First of all most Muslims of subsahara Africa aren't of the nutty kind. Also I think Obama said he was a Christian which means he must have converted. However, I suspect he is also much more liberal than he is letting on.


256 posted on 08/11/2004 5:55:41 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Warrior Nurse

Obama is a MUSLIM ping!


260 posted on 08/11/2004 6:06:15 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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Pathetic piece really. Obama's father abandoned the family when the guy was two years old, and had no influence on raising him. His step father was a non practicing non believing Muslim. Obama was in fact raised for the much of his childhood by his white grandparents in Hawaii I think. Obama said his grandfather was a goat herder, not his father, albeit he did not say he was a prosperous one. But then Edwards said his father was a mill worker, when for most of his career he was a white collar manager in the factory. Gephardt was his father was a milk man, when I think the fact of the matter is that his father sold real estate for most of his career, and was comfortably middle class, although I could be wrong. Obama is a practicing Christian.

Obama is a liberal, and gilded the lily a bit about his grandfather perhaps, but this article is just spin.

281 posted on 08/11/2004 7:26:34 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Gelato

Even worse, his mother is from Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!!


282 posted on 08/11/2004 7:27:09 PM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: Gelato

BUMP


284 posted on 08/11/2004 7:30:52 PM PDT by Missouri
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This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


287 posted on 08/11/2004 8:03:10 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Gelato
Perfect speaker for the Liar's inc. convention. He fits right in. Let's see now, they scream "liar" about Bush over and over and over. Must all be looking in the mirror.
300 posted on 08/11/2004 9:16:44 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Gelato
You may have interest in this thread...Citizen alert: Wirsing and Obama are stalking our livers
A person's body is a temple. Thus says the Lord. But why is it that the Illinois legislature, led by radical muslim activist Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago) and DeKalb County's own Rep. David Wirsing (R-Sycamore) are trying to defile that temple?
Looks like this info was known, by The Illinois Leader anyway, way back in September 2003.
Nothing new here. Ignorance still prevails and it still causes Democrat bliss.
316 posted on 08/11/2004 10:44:51 PM PDT by philman_36
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WOW. Hussein eh ? Plus the last name is too close to Osama. Coincidence ? I think not.


324 posted on 08/12/2004 6:25:08 AM PDT by BSunday
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I forwarded this to a friend who replied with this:

British East Africa (Kenya, Tanzania & Uganda) was/is a mixture of Christian & Muslim. I should know, I lived in Tanzania from 1971-72.

Even if the Obama family had money, the kids would still have been sent to the 'shambas' (farms) to work. To this day families' wealth is measured in livestock.

Yes, the Mau Mau was a terrible time in the struggle for Kenyan independence. Both the British & the Mau Mau committed atrocities & approx 4000 people died, 32 of whom were white settlers. But the Mau Mau was mainly a Kikuyu (the majority tribe) secret society, not Luo.

If anyone is interested in a quick history lesson of Kenya, this is quite good:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/country_profiles/1026884.stm

326 posted on 08/12/2004 8:34:41 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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Yowza!


327 posted on 08/12/2004 8:36:22 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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Obama bin Lyin' ?


328 posted on 08/12/2004 8:40:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Just as a clarification, Barak is the name of one of the judges who ruled Isreal between the time of Joshua and King Saul.

Barak was instructed by the Prophetess Deborah to raise an Army against the Canaanites. (Who had ruled Israel for forty years.) He says he will only go if she will be at his side. Deborah agrees to go, but tells Barak he will have to share his glory with a women. This happens when the Canaanite General Sisera escapes from battle. He seeks refuge in the tent of Heber. Jael, Hebers wife, gives Sisera milk to drink and he falls asleep. As he is sleeping Jael drives a nail in his head.

The victory song of Deborah and Barak is recorded in Judges Chapter 5. Israel is at peace for forty years. Barak is listed as one the "Heros of Faith" in Hebrews Chapter 11.

The name Barak is of particular interest to me as it is the name of my Great Great Grandfather. Who, by the way, was a Scotsman and the men in his family were all given biblical names.


329 posted on 08/12/2004 12:43:47 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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I'm pretty sure I missed this one the first time, so here's a big ol' better-late-than-never BUMP.


342 posted on 06/09/2005 7:02:42 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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wow!

whatta story.

the democrats myth machine made him into the new tiger woods on capital hill.


343 posted on 06/09/2005 7:06:02 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Gelato

Let's see:

His father was a farmer
He says his father herded goats
Hmm... I'll bet there were goats on the farm
Nothing there.

He's a muslim.
So what.

Some of his relatives may have been unsavory.
He avoids his relatives.
Nothing there.

On the surface, this appears to be much ado about nothing.
I'm not getting excited yet.


344 posted on 06/09/2005 7:12:50 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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ping


347 posted on 11/02/2006 6:29:26 PM PST by phs3
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I'll have to hear a lot more before I bite this hook.


349 posted on 11/02/2006 6:37:41 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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I come from Kenya, the same country as Obama's father. First of all I would like to correct the author. He claims that the word Barack comes from the word "Baraka". That's correct but he adds to say that it is Arab and not African (Assuming he meant Kenya because Africa is not a country). Swahili is the national Language in Kenya. It's a blend of Arab and Bantu languages. Baraka is a swahili word so he got it wrong this time. I have been speaking swahili all my life so I'm pretty sure of that.

Again the author terms the Mau Mau group as "murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists". He definitely heard this from the Brittish (if he's not one). History is told by he who writes it. The Mau Mau were fighting for their independence. In the early 40s the Brittish promised a group from the Kikuyu tribe in central Kenya freedom if they enrolled in the "Royal Army" and fight the Japanese in Burma and the Nazis in Egypt and Lybia. Due to prior mistreatment the Kenyans agreed and off they matched to World War 2. After the war, they realised that the "Royal Army" deal was a hoax and the Brittish were not leaving Kenya any time soon. So they revolted just like the Patriots in Boston in the early 1770s. The Brittish declared a state of emergency and threw most (if not all) people from the Kikuyu tribe to labor camps. This included both of my parents. YOu wonder how a country can do this just after seeing the horrors of the Nazis in the early 40s. They (Mau Mau) fought a revolutionary war and I strongly belive that they deserve a better description that "murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists". They pretty much lost the war but forced the Brittish out due to the extremely high costs on the Brittish side of fighting the guerilla war with the Kenyan Mau Mau that quicly offset the benefits of keeping the colony. SO I'd say the Mau Mau won the financial war despite losing on the battle front.

Now Obama's father was not a kikuyu. He was a Luo and despite the fact that his tribe was also in the fore front of liberation of the Kenyan people, I can bet my life that there were no Luo poeple in the Mau Mau movement. The Luos were more involved in the political front of trying to negotiate more freedom for the Africans. That is not "murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists". His father went back to Kenya because that was his home and he felt that there were going to be opportunities back home where there was not going to be an official segregation policy by the goverment, unlike the US in the 50 and 60s. He must have been frustrated with life in the US as he was black. Remember his wife (Obama's mother) was fom Kansas and black people neer really felt at home so he must have had major issues dealing with the in-laws. So the natural thing to do is go back home where he will feel true freedom than fight racism here.


The author claims that Obama's family is taunted with rape and murder? Does he have evidence of this? Documented arrest warrants or legal proceedings against such claims would be welcome.

He continues to say that his research is not yet complete. In my opinion, this is not research as there are no background facts to accompany it.


I agree with the author that Hussein is an Arabic word as I have neer heard of it in the Swahili world. I also agree that Kenyatta's goverment was corrupt, but point to me a perfect goverment. Kenyatta was not murderous, he frictioned with the Mau Mau because they wanted total war with the Brittish. Kenyatta knew that we couldn't fight them off but they're bravery won us our independence. Kenyatta was sent to prison right after the declaration of a state of emergency on 20th October 1952. The next nine years say most of the battles for independence. He was surely not able to command an army from a Brittish prison which was in the middle of no where - completely inaccessible.

I'm not very sure whether Obama is a Muslim but if he is, I agree with the author that he should just come out with it. THe problem with politics is the kind of information that floats around. If the author has a chance of misleading the American people into thinkingof his background the way he has, we may lose a perfect candidate due to false information. Let's try our best to get the facts straight before we release such image damaging information to the public, unless damaging Obama's image is one's first priority, at any cost.

James










351 posted on 12/13/2006 10:33:06 AM PST by Jemo76
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Hillarys' Opposition Research team begins to get Obamas' mind right. There will be no 'failure to communicate."


354 posted on 12/15/2006 8:05:31 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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