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Kerry's confusion over Cambodia
The Telegraph ^ | 13 August 2004 | David Rennie

Posted on 08/12/2004 7:48:20 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

I think what your picture portrays is commonly known as a "pairadorks".


61 posted on 08/12/2004 9:55:56 PM PDT by Excuse_Me
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To: Darkwolf377
Kerry reminds me of Faye Dunaway in Chinatown: "She's my sister! She's my daughter! She's my sister! She's my daughter!"

Yeah, but unlike Kerry, *she* was telling the truth...

62 posted on 08/12/2004 10:07:37 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Howlin

"by killing so many non-coms"

maybe his claims of himself being a war criminal aren't so far fetched after all...

this needs more, much more scrutiny

can you say Abu Ghraib?


63 posted on 08/12/2004 10:12:17 PM PDT by snuffy smiff
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To: eyespysomething
Carl Cameron Confronts Kerry Campaign Concerning Confusing Cambodia Christmas Combat Claim: Kerry Campaign Clueless

*Applause* -- Alliteration award. Awsome.

64 posted on 08/12/2004 10:15:19 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

So this fresh Lt, was assigned the task of running black ops missions into Cambodia, apparently right after he arrived in Viet Nam. He must have been a real superman. Operating black ops, commanding a swift boat, taking part in search and destroy missions, all while being wounded 3 times. No wonder he was so skinny, the poor guy didn't have time to eat. This is what legends are made of. (Sarcasm off)


65 posted on 08/12/2004 10:17:42 PM PDT by Momma Lou
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To: Howlin
You know what, Kerry keeping that hat in his briefcase and sitting around watching his Vietnam videos is sick.

If you think *that's* bad, it's also how he tries to impress women:

Halfway to Georgetown, John Kerry stopped the car. It was 1993, his first time driving Teresa Heinz home, but first he had something to show her. Kerry led his date along a path on the Mall, to the V-shaped slabs of black granite of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. He walked her through the night, without saying a word.

"Every now and then he'd point to a name on the wall. Dickie [Pershing] was one. He went to all his friends, I saw all his friends," Teresa Heinz Kerry, now Kerry's wife, recalled in an interview. Kerry walked her to the Lincoln Memorial, and then back to the Wall before speaking again.

"He said, 'Look at that wall, everybody on that wall died after we knew that war was a mistake.' And he was angry, quietly angry, seething angry, and we left. It was a visit to the promise of Lincoln, and to the tragedy of that wall. Like a procession around a church, like if you're a Catholic and do the Stations of the Cross on Holy Week. Think of reverence, deep, deep, deep held feelings."

-- From Kerry's own campaign website: http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2004_0729.html


66 posted on 08/12/2004 10:24:40 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: jwalsh07
The swiftvet Gardner says John Forbes FRAUD "Cut & Run" Kerry was never near Cambodia. Apparently they have been doing extensive editing on "Cut & Run's" war history lately. I am sure they will need more lawyers and biographers to edit the statement from the Congressional Record.
67 posted on 08/12/2004 10:26:33 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Torie
How a lawyer thinks...

And there you have it.

68 posted on 08/12/2004 10:30:00 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: Momma Lou
So this fresh Lt, was assigned the task of running black ops missions into Cambodia, apparently right after he arrived in Viet Nam. He must have been a real superman. Operating black ops, commanding a swift boat, taking part in search and destroy missions, all while being wounded 3 times

If true, it makes you wonder which side was really trying to kill him off.

69 posted on 08/12/2004 10:34:33 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
But Mr Brinkley rejected accusations that the senator had never been to Cambodia, insisting he was telling the truth about running undisclosed "black" missions there at the height of the war.
Weird thing. Most people I've met who served in Vietnam try to avoid mud altogether. Definitely don't like to sling it, and don't like people around who do.

70 posted on 08/12/2004 10:35:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

" Douglas Brinkley, who has unique access to the candidate's wartime journals. "

Just because Kerry committed something to paper-doesn't make it true.
Brinkley better have more than Crazy John's fiction.
Kerry has already disavowed his diary statements that he hoped to be court martialed for going on an unauthorized mission into Cambodia.

The parts of Kerry's journal cited in " John Kerry, The Official Biography By The Boston Globe Reporters Who Knew Him Best, " sound like a cheap romance novel.
All that's missing from Kerry's heaving prose is the mention of " his engorged manhood ."

From Kerry's War Notes :

"Today, you move to the northern end of the area-towards Cambodia- and excitement tingles the nerves that appreciate the new and the unexplored."
" Kerry recalls his enjoyment in starting the engines, hearing ' it's deep throb.. and the hums as the boat reaches for the step.'
" A woman holds her baby tight against her bare breast and nipple firm, gives life;
my voice asks where she is going and
unabashed she bares her breast
to replace the youngster's fumbling, tiny lips..."
Page 85 ibid.


71 posted on 08/12/2004 11:12:28 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; NavySEAL F-16
Speaking of Cambodia, if Kerry hadn't persuaded the American people to abandon southeast Asia, could approximately a million Cambodian lives have been saved?


72 posted on 08/12/2004 11:25:08 PM PDT by risk
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To: Howlin
but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.”

Actually, it is haunting all of America. I don't think it affects Kerry at all.

As I said earlier, Kerry has no soul.

73 posted on 08/13/2004 7:11:22 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Kozak

I think we can now assume that the atrocities seen and testified to by Kerry occurred on the "Black Missions" by the daring Lt(jg) since no one else in his Division ever saw the things he did... Hey, if you believe this story going to the next level is easy... Of course, we also will hear that he never slept in order to pack all this fun into 4 fun-filled months in country...


74 posted on 08/13/2004 7:20:34 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Kozak

"Right. Junior Lieutenant, new to Swift boats is the one picked to run black Op's into Cambodia"

Not to mention that there was a permanent Special Forces base in Chau Doc, 5 miles from the Cambodia border.

I agree, why would CIA use Kerry the greenhorn when more specialized, capable, and experienced operators were available.


75 posted on 08/13/2004 8:49:50 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Steven W.

"He was a ferry master"

No, that's "fairy".


76 posted on 08/13/2004 8:54:03 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: First_Salute

That guy has an excellent VN maps page. Thx for the link.


77 posted on 08/13/2004 9:04:48 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Guillermo
Weird, I've never heard him mention it.

Oh yes. He was there on a secret mission for the CIA. Shhhh...don't tell anyone though. It is still a secret.
78 posted on 08/13/2004 9:04:52 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Howlin
Zumwalt: ‘We had virtually to straitjacket him to keep him under control,’

If true, both the SWIFTvets and the "band of brothers" know about it.

79 posted on 08/13/2004 9:12:08 AM PDT by angkor
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To: what's up
They needed time to make sure everyone was on board and willing to go along with him about this new lie. Plus, they had to check all the available records to make sure there were a few days in January-February during which Kerry isn't on record as doing something else someplace else.

It's like one of those complicated votes, you know.

80 posted on 08/13/2004 9:16:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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