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The Swift Boat Blues by Bill O'Reilly {Barf Alert)
BillOReilly.com ^ | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 08/12/2004 9:09:45 PM PDT by Jenya

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To: sofaman
...a pro-homo (liberal)...

This is just flat out offensive. Ad hominem attacks and name-calling diminishes the perpetrator.

He is pro-homo. He agrees with the homo agenda. He doesn't think America should interfere with "their rights". He's very out about it. Where have you been?

61 posted on 08/12/2004 9:52:19 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics
The Swift Boat Vets have everything to lose.....

Are you saying because they have "everything to lose" they should not be doing what they believe is right? No matter the price?

62 posted on 08/12/2004 9:56:48 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: quantim

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!


63 posted on 08/12/2004 9:59:53 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Jenya
O'Reilly wants to examine things unemotionally. Alright. From a Vet's eye view Kerry doesn't know what action is. His 4 months is a joke. Everyone else served 13 and 14 month tours. That point sticks in the craw of every vet who did a full tour. A friend was shot, hospitalized and sent back to his unit in the field where he was shot a second time. He was a grunt. Two well deserved purple hearts and a little less lung capasity, but he made it home. Kerry's scratches do not deserve a purple heart, which is why he had to put in for them himself. Also this business about him returning to the scene of prior action and filming it for future use rubs vets the wrong way. I can just imagine some of the men who really saw action asking their CO if they can have time off to go back a film their last action.

No, he was a privilidged SOB while he was over there and he has been a privilidged SOB ever since. He didn't give a damn about what his country was trying to accomplish and he didn't give a damn about the reputations of the men over there who were doing the real fighting. He is an elitist, effete, do as I say not as I do, snob.

Is that good enough for you Mr. O'Reilly?

64 posted on 08/12/2004 9:59:58 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Talk to some of the returning Vets. Ask them how they were made to feel on their return from Vietnam. Ask what it felt like to be spit on, called baby killers.

My first Chief was a Swift Boat vet before he converted from Gunner to an ET. I remember him telling us one day at quarters that he went home after serving 2 tours in Viet Nam and his sister's first words out of her mouth to him were "baby killer". He spent the rest of his career overseas in Japan and after 30 years retired. He never went back to the states.

65 posted on 08/12/2004 10:01:50 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: coconutt2000

Well if nothing else he's certainly moved away from his outright dismissal of the Swifties' claims a few nights ago.


66 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:20 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Jenya
Somewhere Jack Webb is weeping.

Of all the condensending remarks. Well, O'Reilly (or his staff)---
"The story you are about to see is true. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent."
If Kerry would release his medical and military records, like he PROMISED (see Tim Russert transcripts), this could all be laid to rest. SPIN THAT.

This ain't no Project Blue Book, so get over your pompus self. (O'Neill replaced Kerry. Think about it, brainstein. Ever been a "job replacement"??? Not uncomon for folks to "talk" about the previous employee. Spin this: there are 250 swift boat "mates" who served with Kerry... who is spinning whom?)
badge number 714

COMMAND CONFIDENCE
The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source. "The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."

Lying about Cambodia seems serious because Kerry used the story to influence U.S. policy and discredit the armed forces during a time of conflict. Repeating the story over the years, says something about his CHARACTER. Call it valor if you want. I call it UNFIT TO COMMAND.

67 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:44 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Bias is not necessarily propaganda. HOWEVER, bias is necessary to propaganda.)
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To: All
Populist=Centrist=Liberal=Socialist=(and in extreme but common case) Communist

Ever since the 2002? elections the word Centrist has been tossed about because Liberals didn't want to be defined as Liberals. The word Centrist is a smokescreen for Liberal, why pretend differently?

O'Reilly isn't a conservative and he isn't a Liberal. He is an opportunist. His core value is himself. He's entitled to that value but I dislike that he believes himself to be Looking Out For Us. We're more than capable of looking out for ourselves.

Most Americans are fair minded, and bitter personal attacks do not go down well with folks who are not driven by partisanship.

Exactly. Which is why Carville, Matthews and Lanny Davis went down tonight in flames. They keep up these partison attacks against Vietname Vets authorized by the Kerry/Edwards/Clinton/DNC collective the American people are going to retaliate in a manner they may not like.

68 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:58 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Terp

Many lives and families were destroyed by the anti-war, anti-American protestors. That's what Kerry should be judged by.

May God have mercy on his soul, because I don't.


69 posted on 08/12/2004 10:04:45 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: isthisnickcool
Are you saying because they have "everything to lose" they should not be doing what they believe is right? No matter the price?

No. I'm saying I have the utmost respect for them.
They're being sued and threaten by left wing trial lawyers in an attempt to silence them, yet these brave men keep moving on. Look what they're going through to get the truth out. Why would they do all that if what they said wasn't true?
They could lose everything to get the word out, and Kerry has everything to gain by silencing them.

70 posted on 08/12/2004 10:09:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Jenya
"Somewhere Jack Webb is weeping."

Well, In Long Island, Virginia I am shaking my head and wondering how long before O'Reilly finally fades into oblivion.

What an invertebrate, Milquetoast, moral equivocating dumbass.

When he denied that he was in secret negotiations to get his own radio show [at a time when Rush had completely lost his hearing]...only to roll out with the Radio factor a little while later...that's the point when I tuned him out completely.

He's a phony from beginning to end.
Drudge pulled his card...and so has Al Franken.

71 posted on 08/12/2004 10:10:46 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: All

Yesterday O'Reilly said the internet was buzzing about him and the swift boats and he called his detractors- " Ring Wing Jingoists."
O'Reilly is not doing any research on the SWVFT and is going in cold.
Kay?
He's made up his mind and won't let the facts or logic get in the way.
Yesterday, he announced that Kerry had only said he was in Cambodia "one time " and that was ok-just youthful bragging.

By the time O'Reilly's show had come on, there were multiple published sources cited from 1979 until 2003, where Kerry said he was in Cambodia with :
The SEALS
The CIA
One Mission
Many Missions
Running in Ammo
Searching enemy enclaves
( and now according to Drudge, he's going to claim via David Brinkley, that he was actually in Cambodia in January )

If O'Reilly is going to flak for Kerry, he should at least do his research.
But, it probably makes it easier to flak, if he doesn't know the facts-like a defense attorney tells his client-" I don't want to know if you committed the crime."

As for Kerry saving Rassmann's life-
Rassmann told Michael Kranish that the other swiftboats had turned to rescue him ,but, according to Kerry and O'Reilly-
they would have just watched while Rassmann drowned.

Rassmann was tired-he only weighed 135 lbs and had been sick
but, he wasn't going under the water.
What everyone can agree on-is that Kerry pulled Rassmann out of the water.
Kerry did not go to Rassmann-Rassmann swam to Kerry's boat-notice I said swam, as it was the closest.

Page 106-" John Kerry, The Official Biography By The Boston Globe Reporters Who Know Him Best."


72 posted on 08/12/2004 10:11:55 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: coconutt2000
LOL! Oh please...

Either he's not a Conservative...or neither one of you are.

73 posted on 08/12/2004 10:13:59 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

74 posted on 08/12/2004 10:14:48 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Jenya
Dubbie boy!


75 posted on 08/12/2004 10:15:35 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: isthisnickcool
"O'Reilly, like Chris Matthews, seems to like getting down on their knees and giving John Kerry "McGreevey's".

LOL!

76 posted on 08/12/2004 10:17:00 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: concerned about politics
Thanks for the clarification!

I have lawyer friends in Houston that know O'Neill. They say O'Neill is one hell of a guy. I was told that several people tried to talk O'Neill out of doing what he's doing but he said he had no choice.

I was looking earlier trying to find a story I was sure was "out there" on O'Neill. Something about his wife being ill. I think maybe O'Neill donated an organ to her. But I could be wrong. I understand that O'Neill wanted to help address some of the issues he is talking about now months ago but would not because his wife was sick.

G-d bless all our vets. And a special thanks to all the Vietnam vets that served us with honor and dignity. Only to come back and be spat on because of John Kerry. We will never forget you! Thank you!

77 posted on 08/12/2004 10:17:05 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: xzins
"He doesn't like being taxed, he's pro-gay, pro-prostitution/pornography..."

That'd be Loserdopian. :o)

78 posted on 08/12/2004 10:18:10 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: longtermmemmory
"Hanity is the star of fox."

Not in my book.

That honor goes to Brit Hume.

79 posted on 08/12/2004 10:19:37 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Yesterday O'Reilly said the internet was buzzing about him and the swift boats and he called his detractors- " Ring Wing Jingoists."

I hate to break it to O'Reilly, but I don't give a tinker's dam what he thinks.

80 posted on 08/12/2004 10:19:57 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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